Batman-The Dark Knight

jon1856 · #1 07-15-2008, 11:46 PM

I think by now most of the planet knows that this movie starts this week:
http://thedarkknight.warnerbros.com/

Found a rather interesting tie in: The History Channel (yes, you did read that correctly, The History Channel) has Batman Unmasked: The Psychology of the Dark Knight.
"Delve into the world of Batman and the vigilante justice that he brought to the city of Gotham. Batman is a man who, after experiencing great tragedy, devotes his life to an ideal--but what happens when one man takes on the evil underworld alone? Examine why Batman is who he is--and explore how a boy scarred by tragedy becomes a symbol of hope to everyone else."
http://www.history.com/shows.do?acti...isodeId=322796
Starts Wednesday night and repeats.

As for the movie itself, I think I will see it in IMAX in the afternoon.

ASUADPi · #2 07-16-2008, 11:58 PM

Now "word on the street" (i.e. directly from the actors in the movies' mouths) is that Heath Ledger might recieve an oscar nomination for his work posthumoursly (did I spell that right?). Gary Oldman has already stated this to the Associated Press (I read it in today's entertainment section of the Arizona Republic). Having not yet seen the movie (duh) I wouldn't know.

I wonder if he was nominated and won who would accept the award for him?

jon1856 · #3 07-17-2008, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ASUADPi

Now "word on the street" (i.e. directly from the actors in the movies' mouths) is that Heath Ledger might receive an Oscar nomination for his work posthumously (did I spell that right?). Gary Oldman has already stated this to the Associated Press (I read it in today's entertainment section of the Arizona Republic). Having not yet seen the movie (duh) I wouldn't know.

I wonder if he was nominated and won who would accept the award for him?

That "word" has been out for awhile now. Seems to get just getting louder as the opening date gets closer.

However based on what little I have seen including tonight on The History Channel, Mr. Ledger role and portrayal is "wow".

I will be seeing it this weekend in IMAX.

BTB-The show on History Channel is well worth the time.
And Ted and the Chi-Omaga murders are even part of the broadcast.

KSig RC · #4 07-17-2008, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ASUADPi

Now "word on the street" (i.e. directly from the actors in the movies' mouths) is that Heath Ledger might recieve an oscar nomination for his work posthumoursly (did I spell that right?). Gary Oldman has already stated this to the Associated Press (I read it in today's entertainment section of the Arizona Republic). Having not yet seen the movie (duh) I wouldn't know.

I wonder if he was nominated and won who would accept the award for him?

It's VERY hard to get a posthumous nomination, for a variety of reasons (certainly not limited to the fact that the Academy Awards are corrupt as shit and dead men owe no favors), especially for a "comic movie" . . . so while there is a groundswell, I'd be surprised.

Also, the actors in the movie are a terrible source for this sort of information. What else should they say?

CrackerBarrel · #5 07-17-2008, 12:44 AM

Particularly not since Ledger isn't even the best actor in the movie. Not even close to Christian Bale. It's all fine and good to want to compliment a dead man, but to think the second best actor in the movie is deserving of an Oscar for a freaking COMIC BOOK MOVIE is an absolute joke.

jon1856 · #6 07-17-2008, 12:51 AM

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Particularly not since Ledger isn't even the best actor in the movie. Not even close to Christian Bale. It's all fine and good to want to compliment a dead man, but to think the second best actor in the movie is deserving of an Oscar for a freaking COMIC BOOK MOVIE is an absolute joke.

And source material is important for just what reason?
And IIRC, this is more based on the graphic novels than the comic books.
How about seeing the movie, and just how the work of the cast, crew and staff all fits together before making a judgment on the movie and all the work behind it. And how it all fits and works on the screen.

CrackerBarrel · #7 07-17-2008, 01:00 AM

I just have a problem with people making a big deal out of comic book movies. It's based on some poorly illustrated picture books for 8-14 year old boys, how freaking profound can it be?

I will give you that the Batman movies have tended to be significantly better than any of the other garbage the genre has put out, but I mean come on.

jon1856 · #8 07-17-2008, 01:06 AM

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I just have a problem with people making a big deal out of comic book movies. It's based on some poorly illustrated picture books for 8-14 year old boys, how freaking profound can it be?

I will give you that the Batman movies have tended to be significantly better than any of the other garbage the genre has put out, but I mean come on.

And I have problems with people taking a good to great book and making very bad movies out of them.

And as for profound I would again suggest you watch History Channel show.
Yes it was a tie in but was very interesting and informative at many levels.
Tell you what CB-lets met up at the theater Saturday for the 12:30 PM IMAX show. I will even pop for the corn.

CrackerBarrel · #9 07-17-2008, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jon1856

And I have problems with people taking a good to great book and making very bad movies out of them.

And as for profound I would again suggest you watch History Channel show.
Yes it was a tie in but was very interesting and informative at many levels.
Tell you what CB-lets met up at the theater Saturday for the 12:30 PM IMAX show. I will even pop for the corn.

I agree with you about books. The only three cases where I have really liked a book and still enjoyed the movie a great deal that I can think of were "American Psycho" (disturbing but still very good book and probably my favorite movie), "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas" and "The Godfather".

jon1856 · #10 07-17-2008, 01:24 AM

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I agree with you about books. The only three cases where I have really liked a book and still enjoyed the movie a great deal that I can think of were "American Psycho" (disturbing but still very good book and probably my favorite movie), "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas" and "The Godfather".

No wonder why my system just crashed-we agree on 3 things all at once!

Now lets see if we agree on movie.

DSTCHAOS · #11 07-17-2008, 01:43 AM

I love "American Psycho!"

jon1856 · #12 07-17-2008, 02:03 AM

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I love "American Psycho!"

And The Joker seems to be one.
This role does not seem to be even close to any other Joker done before.
A few more days and we all find out what is what.

DSTCHAOS · #13 07-17-2008, 02:08 AM

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And The Joker seems to be one.
This role does not seem to be even close to any other Joker done before.
A few more days and we all find out what is what.

I heard Ledger switched it up MAJORLY. I can't wait to see it.

I know people who are doing a Dark Knight gathering where a large group goes to the movies and does an afterparty. Cool.

Even cooler if they had costumes. LOL.

moe.ron · #14 07-17-2008, 07:40 AM

Got my tixs for tomorrow's night show.

Going straight from work to the show. I'm so psyched. Will probably see it before most of you since my 8 o'clock at night show is 8 in the morning stateside.

KSigkid · #15 07-17-2008, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by KSig RC

It's VERY hard to get a posthumous nomination, for a variety of reasons (certainly not limited to the fact that the Academy Awards are corrupt as shit and dead men owe no favors), especially for a "comic movie" . . . so while there is a groundswell, I'd be surprised.

I could see them giving Ledger the Oscar for just that reason; it would be a way for them to make even more of a spectacle out of the ceremony. Or maybe I'm just being really cynical.

If I remember correctly, the only actor to have died before his Oscar win was Peter Finch from "Network." I may be forgetting someone, though.

In terms of who would accept the award, I would think Michelle Williams would be the best choice.

As for movies that were almost as good as the books: "The Natural" was almost as good as the book (even though the endings and messages were completely different). "Atonement" also was an excellent movie based off a very good book. "Silence of the Lambs" was a case where I liked the movie better than the book.