How Obama Won — and May Win

[PhiGam]

http://buchanan.org/blog/2008/06/pjb...n-and-may-win/

Great article by PJB, seems to provide a pretty simple path to victory for Obama, if he can do it.

Barack is a natural, a Mickey Mantle, a superb political athlete like JFK, who has looks, charm, youth and a speaking style that can move crowds to cheers or laughter.
Barack was thus able to unite the McGovern wing — young, idealistic, liberal, anti-war — with the Jesse Jackson quadrant of the party, black folks, and defeat Hillary’s coalition of working-class Catholics, women, seniors and Hispanics.

Democrats may talk of making the economy the issue this fall, but Republicans are going to make Barack the issue. Story line: We cannot entrust our beloved America, in a time of war, to this radical and exotic figure who has so many crazy and extremist associates.

Barack’s problem is thus Reagan’s problem.
As the country wished to be rid of Jimmy Carter in 1980, so the nation today wishes to be rid of Bush and his Republicans. But America is apprehensive over a roll of the dice, in Bill Clinton’s metaphor.
How did Reagan ease the anxiety? In the debate with Carter, he came off as conservative, yes, but also traditional, mainstream, witty and the more likable man. The real Reagan came through.
With his persona, Barack may be able to do the same — in the debates. The problem is that he had two dozen debates with Hillary and, by the end of the primary season, five months after it began, he was still losing ground.

I absolutely love the way that Buchanon provides a historical perspective to everything in current politics.

[DSTCHAOS]

Pat Buchanon is discrediting Obama's success under the guise of providing a historical perspective to everything (I can detect this because I remain skeptical of candidates and didn't take Obama seriously beyond his oratory skills and his ability to walk on water and have a cult following). Kind of like Buchanan's "memo to whitey." Buchanan gives conservatives and Republicans a bad name. I used to agree with some of the things he said until his recent comments outed him as an idiot with a platform.

It is interesting that black folks are the "Jesse Jackson quadrant of the party." Very interesting indeed. Very loaded.

Republicans are definitely going to make Obama the issue instead of the platforms. Platforms don't matter too much anyway because what a President does in office can always deviate from the election platform. However, I call this the "anything but black" syndrome. Republicans may say "we cannot entrust America with an exotic and radical figure." But for many Republicans and nonRepublicans this is just a race-neutral way of saying "we cannot entrust our beloved America, in a time of war, to a black person. This is no time to experiment with Black History firsts and progression."

Mark my words. NO...NEW...BLACK PEOPLE.

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Pat Buchanon is discrediting Obama's success under the guise of providing a historical perspective to everything (I can detect this because I remain skeptical of candidates and didn't take Obama seriously beyond his oratory skills and his ability to walk on water and have a cult following). Kind of like Buchanan's "memo to whitey." Buchanan gives conservatives and Republicans a bad name. I used to agree with some of the things he said until his recent comments outed him as an idiot with a platform.

It is interesting that black folks are the "Jesse Jackson quadrant of the party." Very interesting indeed. Very loaded.

Republicans are definitely going to make Obama the issue instead of the platforms. Platforms don't matter too much anyway because what a President does in office can always deviate from the election platform. However, I call this the "anything but black" syndrome. Republicans may say "we cannot entrust America with an exotic and radical figure." But for many Republicans and nonRepublicans this is just a race-neutral way of saying "we cannot entrust our beloved America, in a time of war, to a black person. This is no time to experiment with Black History firsts and progression."

Mark my words. NO...NEW...BLACK PEOPLE.

That's ridiculous, I can assure you that Buchanon would not refer to Colin Powell or Condoleeza Rice as "exotic and radical figures."
Perhaps the Jesse Jackson statement was loaded, but with Obama polling as high as 90% among black people there is certainly a correlation there that goes beyond political views and affiliations.
Either way, despite a few sentences that you viewed as racist, did you disagree with the article? If Obama can gain a sizable portion of the working class vote that Hillary had then he will win.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

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Mark my words. NO...NEW...BLACK PEOPLE.

NEW Black people????


What happened to the old ones???


what's the difference....


waaaaaiiit.....o goodness...i just had a Boondocks episode one flashback...... 'nuff said.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by PhiGam

That's ridiculous, I can assure you that Buchanon would not refer to Colin Powell or Condoleeza Rice as "exotic and radical figures."

He doesn't have to. They share his political categorical distinction so he'd have to find more creative ways to highlight their shortcomings on an "anything but race" basis.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

NEW Black people????


What happened to the old ones???


what's the difference....


waaaaaiiit.....o goodness...i just had a Boondocks episode one flashback...... 'nuff said.

go away

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

He doesn't have to. They share his political categorical distinction so he'd have to find more creative ways to highlight their shortcomings on an "anything but race" basis.

So you disagreed with the main point of the article?

[nittanyalum]

LOL, wow, was the title of that article misleading! As often as I find myself in polar opposition to Pat Buchanan, I couldn't believe I was about to click in to read him write about how Obama may roll over McCain and take the White House. And I didn't. LOL. If anything, that blog is a post-mortem endorsement of why Clinton might have been the stronger Democrat candidate. I do think his final observation, though, is Obama's ace in the hole. Just like Reagan, Obama can win on personality if he plays his cards right. McCain is a decent guy, but sorry, in the one-on-one debates, he is going to come across as old and stuttery and stiff compared to Obama, if he's on his game. If Obama picks a good VP candidate, he still has every opportunity to deliver the White House to the Democrats.

[ADqtPiMel]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

Just like Reagan, Obama can win on personality if he plays his cards right. McCain is a decent guy, but sorry, in the one-on-one debates, he is going to come across as old and stuttery and stiff compared to Obama, if he's on his game.

Especially with the rise of HDTV...it will be Kennedy and Nixon all over again.

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

LOL, wow, was the title of that article misleading! As often as I find myself in polar opposition to Pat Buchanan, I couldn't believe I was about to click in to read him write about how Obama may roll over McCain and take the White House. And I didn't. LOL. If anything, that blog is a post-mortem endorsement of why Clinton might have been the stronger Democrat candidate. I do think his final observation, though, is Obama's ace in the hole. Just like Reagan, Obama can win on personality if he plays his cards right. McCain is a decent guy, but sorry, in the one-on-one debates, he is going to come across as old and stuttery and stiff compared to Obama, if he's on his game. If Obama picks a good VP candidate, he still has every opportunity to deliver the White House to the Democrats.

I think McCain is likely much better on a range of substantive issues, but the American people don't always care or notice. McCain has to keep his composure and try to get Obama to lose his. If he can truly back Barack into a corner about his far-left ideology and radical associations, I think cracks in the facade will go a long way for McCain.

I highly doubt that if McCain wins this election, it'll occur during the debates. Now if he picks Romney or Jindal, who would both fare well against pretty much any Democratic candidate, that could help. But if McCain wins, it'll be because the GOP political ops turn the public opinion.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by ADqtPiMel

Especially with the rise of HDTV...it will be Kennedy and Nixon all over again.

True - plus, with the short time limits given to candidates to respond to questions, it essentially becomes a "who can top this soundbite" contest.

Or McCain could try something along the lines of Reagan/Mondale..."I am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience."

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by PhiGam

So you disagreed with the main point of the article?

I am commenting on the parts that I'm commenting on.

[nittanyalum]

I'm sure the mere mention of "Moveon.org" will make some of the heads of our friends here explode , but I love love LOVE John Cusack (I know that the page this is on is a shameless push for money, but I don't care, I love love LOVE John Cusack ): https://pol.moveon.org/donate/cusack...906-JAfR5a&t=4

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

I'm sure the mere mention of "Moveon.org" will make some of the heads of our friends here explode , but I love love LOVE John Cusack (I know that the page this is on is a shameless push for money, but I don't care, I love love LOVE John Cusack ): https://pol.moveon.org/donate/cusack...906-JAfR5a&t=4

I'm a Cusack fan, as an actor; Grosse Pointe Blank is one of my favorite movies.

However, there are few things in this world funnier than when an entertainer tries to inject themselves into political discourse. Please stick with reading movie scripts.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

I'm sure the mere mention of "Moveon.org" will make some of the heads of our friends here explode , but I love love LOVE John Cusack (I know that the page this is on is a shameless push for money, but I don't care, I love love LOVE John Cusack ): https://pol.moveon.org/donate/cusack...906-JAfR5a&t=4

This ad would be better if he got naked. Just saying is all.