Why people vote for a particular candidate

[fantASTic]

So...there's been a lot of stuff in the news about Clinton and Obama. People are saying that Oprah "betrayed womenkind" because she endorsed Obama; feminists say that voting for Obama means continuing sexism. Do you think it's acceptable to vote for Clinton BECAUSE she's a woman, or for Obama BECAUSE he's black?

[1908Revelations]

Oprah betrayed womankind.....that has me CTFU!! So.....I guess all of the men in America should vote for Obama.

[fantASTic]

It's just weird, because if a woman says she's voting for Hillary because she's a woman, a lot of people think that's showing solidarity for womankind. If someone votes for Obama because he's black, then it's showing loyalty to the community. If someone votes for McCain because he's a white male, then the voter is a racist, sexist pig.

So crazy.

Personally, I've gotten caught up in the Obamania.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by fantASTic

If someone votes for McCain because he's a white male, then the voter is a racist, sexist pig.

Naw, he is just fugly and I couldn't vote for a fugly candidate...

[shinerbock]

I think it depends.

Plenty of people, I'm sure, will vote for Obama SOLELY because he's black, or for Clinton because she's a woman, or for Romney because he's a Mormon.

However, I think others will vote for Obama because he's black and they're black and thus there is a likelihood that they have similar concerns. I think this is more likely in a religious context, especially one that is as close knit as LDS. However, I think it can reasonably apply in gender/race contexts as well, albeit, IMO, less likely.

I'm a white male voting for McCain, but I'd happily vote for Obama or Clinton if I thought they'd be successful leaders who would represent my values and protect the things I care about. I don't, so I'll vote for the old white dude.

[fantASTic]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

I think it depends.

Plenty of people, I'm sure, will vote for Obama SOLELY because he's black, or for Clinton because she's a woman, or for Romney because he's a Mormon.

However, I think others will vote for Obama because he's black and they're black and thus there is a likelihood that they have similar concerns. I think this is more likely in a religious context, especially one that is as close knit as LDS. However, I think it can reasonably apply in gender/race contexts as well, albeit, IMO, less likely.

While this is true, you'd think instead of saying "I'm voting for him because he's black", people would say, "I'm voting for him because I support his views on health care / the war / personal freedoms."

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

However, I think others will vote for Obama because he's black and they're black and thus there is a likelihood that they have similar concerns. I think this is more likely in a religious context, especially one that is as close knit as LDS. However, I think it can reasonably apply in gender/race contexts as well, albeit, IMO, less likely.

I'm a white male voting for McCain, but I'd happily vote for Obama or Clinton if I thought they'd be successful leaders who would represent my values and protect the things I care about. I don't, so I'll vote for the old white dude.

Are you fugly like McCain is? JUST KIDDING!!!!

I am rather bothered by these "superdelgates"... The term has become popular during this "Election Season"... I am wondering if it will be another "long hot summer" with outside agitators... Like Chicago, 1972...

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by fantASTic

While this is true, you'd think instead of saying "I'm voting for him because he's black", people would say, "I'm voting for him because I support his views on health care / the war / personal freedoms."

Oh sure, if you're putting it out there, then I believe they're probably voting for him simply because they're of the same race. I'm referring to the overwhelming support among black folks for Obama and Mormons for Romney; the unexplained results and polling numbers. I think it has to be bifurcated somewhat, because those are pretty natural candidates for those respective demographics.

Also, I think another factor is ignorance/apathy, because those who don't know what Barack Obama stands for (paging Susan Sarandon--sorry, had to) probably can't legitimately say "oh, well we're both black and he cares about these black issues that are important to me." Of course, then you get into whether or not they're simply shielding a simple and true response "because he's mormon like me" with alternate support which wouldn't be sufficient for other candidates.

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Are you fugly like McCain is? JUST KIDDING!!!!

I am rather bothered by these "superdelgates"... The term has become popular during this "Election Season"... I am wondering if it will be another "long hot summer" with outside agitators... Like Chicago, 1972...

C'mon, if I was THAT ugly I'd vote for Hillary Clinton...

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

C'mon, if I was THAT ugly I'd vote for Hillary Clinton...

Michelle needs to get her "edges" done...

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

C'mon, if I was THAT ugly I'd vote for Hillary Clinton...

It's like, "I'd shave it's butt and teach it to walk backwards..."

Hill needs more botox...

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by fantASTic

While this is true, you'd think instead of saying "I'm voting for him because he's black", people would say, "I'm voting for him because I support his views on health care / the war / personal freedoms."

some people are voting for Obama because, he's refreshing, he's clean cut and because...... he speaks so well.....

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by fantASTic

So...there's been a lot of stuff in the news about Clinton and Obama. People are saying that Oprah "betrayed womenkind" because she endorsed Obama; feminists say that voting for Obama means continuing sexism. Do you think it's acceptable to vote for Clinton BECAUSE she's a woman, or for Obama BECAUSE he's black?

One can always go suicide voting because they want to see the same ol' BS coming out of Washington

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

some people are voting for Obama because, he's refreshing, he's clean cut and because...... he speaks so well.....

Yeah, like he's bright, very articulate and appears safe... Not like the rest of that riff raff...

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Yeah, like he's bright, very articulate and appears safe... Not like the rest of that riff raff...

so...if you were to vote for him...why would you, Monet?