Suicide?

RazorbackMom · #1 09-15-2007, 01:34 PM

Anybody know of a girl who suicided and got a bid from the chapter she wanted?

Benzgirl · #2 09-15-2007, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RazorbackMom

Anybody know of a girl who suicided and got a bid from the chapter she wanted?

Yes.

princessjv · #3 09-15-2007, 01:59 PM

several.

KSUViolet06 · #4 09-15-2007, 02:53 PM

It does happen. It wasn't the norm, but it did happen. Like, if there were 5 girls who "suicided" (the Panhellenic term for it is intentional single preference or ISP), maybe 2 of them would get a bid. Keep in mind that my school has a relatively small Greek system.

I think "suiciding" and getting a bid is more likely to happen in a smaller recruitment than it is at somwhere in the SEC like LSU or Bama. That's why most schools will advise girls against it, because it's risky. You have one chance (as opposed to 2 or 3) to get bid. If you're not high enough on that one group's bid list, you don't get a bid.

thetaprincess · #5 09-15-2007, 09:48 PM

Yes I did

violetpretty · #6 09-15-2007, 09:55 PM

Yes. I know several people who suicided and got what they wanted. I also know people who suicided and ended up unmatched. It just depends where you are on the chapter's list.

honeychile · #7 09-15-2007, 09:56 PM

Yes, but it's a HUGE chance.

If the PNM does so, and doesn't get the bid, doesn't she have to wait until the next Formal Rush?

KSUViolet06 · #8 09-15-2007, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by honeychile

If the PNM does so, and doesn't get the bid, doesn't she have to wait until the next Formal Rush?

I'm not sure about this, but I do know that those who "suicide" aren't eligible to be snap bidded or placed as quota additions.

melaxid · #9 09-15-2007, 10:21 PM

She doesn't have to wait for a year. The wait applies if a woman is matched but declines her bid.

At a chapter where groups are not close to total (i.e. even if you add quota to the current membership, they are not at total) ISP can get you a bid. However, if quota is high, or groups are close to total it is VERY risky (hence the more common term- suicide)

that being said, it all depends on the campus. It is really best to keep an OPEN mind during recruitment and be open to membership is more than one group. There are great opportunities in each group to be had.

UGAalum94 · #10 09-15-2007, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by melaxid

She doesn't have to wait for a year. The wait applies if a woman is matched but declines her bid.

At a chapter where groups are not close to total (i.e. even if you add quota to the current membership, they are not at total) ISP can get you a bid. However, if quota is high, or groups are close to total it is VERY risky (hence the more common term- suicide)

that being said, it all depends on the campus. It is really best to keep an OPEN mind during recruitment and be open to membership is more than one group. There are great opportunities in each group to be had.

I'm not second guessing you; I just don't understand:

What's the relationship to total got to do with it? Are you considering that even if she doesn't match in formal that she'll get a COB? Or is there something else about that?

melaxid · #11 09-15-2007, 11:52 PM

On a campus where even filling quota leaves openings to reach total, women who do not match via formal recruitment (usually due to an intentional single preference) will be picked up via cob.

I have seen this happen a lot as the chapter I initiated at, and the chapter I served as advisor had this situation on their campuses- groups not near total, so even after quota was met via Formal Recruitment, there was a need to cob to reach total.

**note on these campuses total should be lowered by panhellenic to help grow all groups, unfortunately what typically ends up happening is the strong groups get stronger and the smaller groups struggle. It all depends on the panhellenic spirit of the campus, and the greek leadership.

KSUViolet06 · #12 09-15-2007, 11:58 PM

^^^ I see what you're saying, your school's greek system was small enough that girls who "suicided" and didn't get bids still had the chance to be picked up via COB because not everyone met total even after matching quota during formal recruitment.

melaxid · #13 09-15-2007, 11:59 PM

exactly.

it all depends on the campus and group sizes and such.

SoCalGirl · #14 09-16-2007, 12:20 AM

I could probably figure it out if I thought about it; but, doesn't suiciding not change your chances (except for QA) of matching with your first choice? You'll either match or you won't. That's why suiciding is only a good idea if there's no way that you want to get your second/third choice.

nittanyalum · #15 09-16-2007, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by melaxid

**note on these campuses total should be lowered by panhellenic to help grow all groups, unfortunately what typically ends up happening is the strong groups get stronger and the smaller groups struggle. It all depends on the panhellenic spirit of the campus, and the greek leadership.

Melaxid, I wish I could get you in a meeting with a campus Greek Advisor I know, you hit the nail on the head!!!