Protest at Columbia over Iranian President

[Rudey]

I swung by. All I have to say is wow.

There are enough morons from all spectrums to make me wish I was a citizen of the conch republic instead.

Highlights include:
1) These catholic guys wearing suits and red sashes, and walking around with flags supporting some fascist ideology of some sort (property, tradition, and family).
2) These crazy people protesting Bush in general. They said yes the Iranian president is bad, but let's focus on Bush. Why not just protest the ozone layer depletion while you're at it since that has just as much relevance to the topic.
3) The crazies who show up wearing military garb that they bought in souvenier stores to support democracy.

I know some folks who were invited to dinner with Ahmenijad but didn't go. None of them were wackos that came to protest either.

-Rudey

[ZTAMich]

Originally Posted by Rudey

I swung by. All I have to say is wow.

There are enough morons from all spectrums to make me wish I was a citizen of the conch republic instead.

Highlights include:
1) These catholic guys wearing suits and red sashes, and walking around with flags supporting some fascist ideology of some sort (property, tradition, and family).
2) These crazy people protesting Bush in general. They said yes the Iranian president is bad, but let's focus on Bush. Why not just protest the ozone layer depletion while you're at it since that has just as much relevance to the topic.
3) The crazies who show up wearing military garb that they bought in souvenier stores to support democracy.

I know some folks who were invited to dinner with Ahmenijad but didn't go. None of them were wackos that came to protest either.

-Rudey

Looks like Columbia is doing speeches from world leaders all week. However none as controversial as today. I was in the neighborhood this weekend. Even as early as Saturday night there were news teams doing stories from campus. Columbia ID must be shown to pass thru the gates of campus today. I understand it is a safety concnern but I think that added to people's anger as well. It's not a full public forum if you don't invite the public.

There was a fair amount of anti-Ahmadinejad and anti-Iran posters up on side street buildings. What I hate is just like you said - the morons who show and protest other things that have nothing to do with Iran and Ahmadinejad.

[DaemonSeid]

here is my question and this may sound familiar to some...the


Why did a whole bunch of people travel all this distance to Columbia to protest?

What did it prove?

What was the purpose of protesting one isolated person out of all the people in the world that you could protest?

What did you all think would be the end result of this protest would be....?

and I forgot to add...what is the relevance of having a protest if this gentleman lives so far away that what he does is of no relevance to you.


just a thought.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

here is my question and this may sound familiar to some...the


Why did a whole bunch of people travel all this distance to Columbia to protest?

What did it prove?

What was the purpose of protesting one isolated person out of all the people in the world that you could protest?

What did you all think would be the end result of this protest would be....?


just a thought.

Protests in general are pretty pointless.

They're just wastes of time for (mostly) unemployed people. It must be nice to not have to show up to work/class/whatever right in the middle of the week. Perhaps these peoples' time could best be spent filling out employment applications or doing community service?

We have a peace rally here in OKC at a certain location every evening at 5PM -- the big one is on Fridays. We don't get the colorful types Rudey describes. Mostly a bunch of 60's left-behinds trying to relive their youths. I have a feeling that they see this more as a social event and an opportunity to show off their mad bongo skillz than anything reasonably calculated to accomplish a political objective.

That's just my take though.

I'm glad we agree on this.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Protests in general are pretty pointless.

They're just wastes of time for (mostly) unemployed people. It must be nice to not have to show up to work/class/whatever right in the middle of the week. Perhaps these peoples' time could best be spent filling out employment applications or doing community service?

We have a peace rally here in OKC at a certain location every evening at 5PM -- the big one is on Fridays. We don't get the colorful types Rudey describes. Mostly a bunch of 60's left-behinds trying to relive their youths. I have a feeling that they see this more as a social event and an opportunity to show off their mad bongo skillz than anything reasonably calculated to accomplish a political objective.

That's just my take though.

I'm glad we agree on this.

Oh I didnt say that we agree kevin...you are indeed mistaken.

Some of those same questions that some people in here posed last week about jena, I just thought i would throw right back and see what i got....see the difference?

[Kevin]

The folks at Jena probably mostly fit into the above-described category as well.

A bunch of 60's left-behinds, like Sharpton, Jackson, etc.

Protesting in general is generally pointless.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by Kevin

The folks at Jena probably mostly fit into the above-described category as well.

A bunch of 60's left-behinds, like Sharpton, Jackson, etc.

Protesting in general is generally pointless.

again kevin unless you know...stop ass u ming....

I got an idea that shouldn't be too hard for you unless you make it hard...why don't u ask some one that actually went...as I recall there are several here that went.....

[Rudey]

Your answers:

1) For the most part, nobody did any travelling. It's NY. You get on the subway.
2) Who said they wanted to prove something? They wanted to be heard.
3) They didn't exactly protest one person. Most people protested against the campus. Some protested against the Iranian regime. Some protested against Bush or whomever. For those that protested against Columbia, it was the fact that they gave him a podium and for those that protested against the Iranian regime (not just one person), it ranged from the abuse of women, homosexuals, jews, other minority groups.
4) Again, I didn't see or hear anyone talking about an end result. They wanted to be heard and to let the Iranian president know those actions were unacceptable and they were upset that Columbia had let him speak. Columbia went as far as introducing the president as a tyrant before his speech so perhaps they saw eye to eye in the end.
5) You ask derivations of the same question over and over and I'm getting tired of providing the same answer, but read the previous responses.

If this has to do with your issues over Jena, I don't see how the two are related. I don't think anti-Iranian protestors objected to your anger over Jena. But then again you wouldn't mind my being murdered so I don't know if you have any logic to your thoughts anymore.

-Rudey

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

here is my question and this may sound familiar to some...the


Why did a whole bunch of people travel all this distance to Columbia to protest?

What did it prove?

What was the purpose of protesting one isolated person out of all the people in the world that you could protest?

What did you all think would be the end result of this protest would be....?

and I forgot to add...what is the relevance of having a protest if this gentleman lives so far away that what he does is of no relevance to you.


just a thought.

[DaemonSeid]

hooked...thanks Rudey.....

pay attention....for $500 dollars...hwo is this relevant....heheheheh


do you understand how this works yet?

[Rudey]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

hooked...thanks Rudey.....

pay attention....for $500 dollars...hwo is this relevant....heheheheh


do you understand how this works yet?

You make about as much sense as chocolate on a hot dog.

-Rudey

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by Rudey

You make about as much sense as chocolate on a hot dog.

-Rudey

what's distasteful to you may be a delight to others...remember that when you think about using that lame example again

[Rudey]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

what's distasteful to you may be a delight to others...remember that when you think about using that lame example again

What the heck are you talking about?

I've had enough. You join the list of idiots on my ignore list. You can go on being a violent cretin that makes no sense with other members of GC, but I'm done.

-Rudey

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

hooked...thanks Rudey.....

pay attention....for $500 dollars...hwo is this relevant....heheheheh


do you understand how this works yet?

Here's a thought:

Maybe, just maybe, the "relevance" issue is a touch more meta than you've understood so far.

You've taken two disparate situations and related them to make a point - good for you. Perhaps, using poor examples to support your point is part of the problem - if, instead, you focused on good examples, your target audience would be less likely to turn off your message.

OH ALSO - your target audience is NOT your fellow protesters.

Seriously, try not to ejaculate in your rush to compare some pretty different situations - and, even better, the reason why the situations are different should be easily recognizable to you, because it is a POSITIVE for your issue.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

Here's a thought:

Maybe, just maybe, the "relevance" issue is a touch more meta than you've understood so far.

You've taken two disparate situations and related them to make a point - good for you. Perhaps, using poor examples to support your point is part of the problem - if, instead, you focused on good examples, your target audience would be less likely to turn off your message.

OH ALSO - your target audience is NOT your fellow protesters.

Seriously, try not to ejaculate in your rush to compare some pretty different situations - and, even better, the reason why the situations are different should be easily recognizable to you, because it is a POSITIVE for your issue.

That's on them.....right about now Sig...I can care less

I was in no way trying to relate jena to today's protest because if anyone ever bothers to ask, I disagree with his being here...but that's not up for me ot decide.

What I was doing was relaying those same questions to those too dense to understand why we protested in context to what happened today.

Don't ask me why I am doing something and say it's irreleavant if you go right out and do that same thing( not saying this to you directly....saying this to make a point)

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by Rudey

What the heck are you talking about?

I've had enough. You join the list of idiots on my ignore list. You can go on being a violent cretin that makes no sense with other members of GC, but I'm done.

-Rudey

WHHHHHAAAAAA??? RUDEY USED THE IGNORE BUTTON???? STOP. PLAYING.


I IRRITATED HIM ENOUGH TO MAKE HIM USE THAT FEATURE!!!????

damn.


Rudey...U keep doing that and most of GC will be on that list....