10 Politically Incorrect Truths About Human Nature

[Dionysus]

...according to Psychology Today.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/artic...622-000002.xml

What are your thoughts about this? The truth or a bunch of bullsh*t? What things you believe about human nature that may be viewed as politically incorrect? I think it would be a good idea to exclude anything racial, we don't want this thread to turn into the 2002nd racial discussion we have here on GC.

[Drolefille]

Eh, I'd like to see sources for a lot of what he's saying. There's some debate over whether prehistoric humans were monogamous or not.

I'd argue that while some women might benefit from idealized polygyny, (by sharing a wealthy man) in reality it's not the same.

For the things like having a son (because he's worth more) means the marriage stays together. Where is that exactly? The US? Worldwide? India? Same with the beautiful people having a daughter, I was only skimming at this point, but there's no way for a woman's beauty to affect the sex of a baby, only men affect the sex of the baby.

And finally, DUH physical attractiveness=reproductive success. That's why we find them attractive. That's why fatter people were attractive when fat=wealthy or fat=good childbearing. The most attractive are assumed to be the most healthy who will pass the best genes on to your children.

There are some truths in there, but I think that mostly it's just someone who wants to say nonPC things for the sake of it.

[OneTimeSBX]

mostly bull if you ask me. especially the suicide bomber one. its just a bit racist/presumptuous.

i do like the one about beautiful people having daughters...i am expecting my second girl, i am the oldest of 3 girls, and my fiance has 3 sisters. total bull too, but i like it! (is that shallow lol?)

the one about women wanting to be bombshells may not have proof, but i do know that you just cant find non-bombshell looking dolls/role models anymore. i love America Fererra, she is a beautiful healthy girl, but shes still a bombshell! there are no average looking Barbies. i raise my daughter to look at everyone the same and i try to keep her away from the primped and coiffed toys/shows/role models. its very hard. it is what we are exposed to from the very start...

[shinerbock]

Interesting.

The suicide bombing one was gutsy, props to them.

[OneTimeSBX]

you know, i almost understand the suicide bomber one...i dont think its nice to say, but...

it doesnt say a particular race, just a religious group. maybe i need to do more research, but statistically you hear more about those type of bombings than any other. i dont believe too many other religions offer the same "reward" in the afterlife for martyrs...

please, anyone, correct me if im wrong...

[Drolefille]

Statistically I'm pretty sure he's right, as for his reasons, I'm not sure I agree. I think it has a lot more to do with the influence of religion and the fundamentalist clerics who propogate that. There have been Christians* who've done the same things, but what one fundamentalist church here teaches, it's so much more prevalent there. Combine that with socioeconomic oppression and you've got people who will die, not because they aren't going to have wives (polygyny isn't that common) but because their family gets $$ and their family already has an heir.

I highly doubt many suicide bombers blow themselves up just because they can't get any in this life.

*Christianity does say martyrs go to heaven, it's all in the interpretation of that. Just because it doesn't involve virgins or white raisins or whatever doesn't mean that people won't die for their faith, even if it's a twisted version of the faith.

[33girl]

OK, the one I've got issue with is the Orson Welles example...

Orson Welles got screwed over big time by the studios (which were run by MEN). His risk taking behavior definitely did not cease after Citizen Kane's release...google "It's All True" if you want confirmation. If his creativity seemed to dim, it wasn't because he wanted to do so...it was because he had to eat.

I know this is a weird one to pick out, but it just shows me that this guy didn't do his research.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Orson Welles got screwed over big time by the studios (which were run by MEN). His risk taking behavior definitely did not cease after Citizen Kane's release...google "It's All True" if you want confirmation.

You're unnecessarily conflating terms here - his assertion wasn't that Welles got rich from Citizen Kane, it's that it was the height of his creative processes and the best example of risk-taking behavior. The fact he got dicked over actually doesn't hurt this assertion. Remember, he doesn't say risk-taking ends - but rather that it is most prevalent in your 20's and fades a bit after.

Originally Posted by 33girl

If his creativity seemed to dim, it wasn't because he wanted to do so...it was because he had to eat.

First off, there's a causation/correlation problem here, but w/e.

However, this is kind of his point - he's stating that staying solvent is an old man's game. Chasing pipe dreams is a young man's game, for the most part.

I'm not sure his research is that bad, given my understanding of his assertions, but I'm no expert on Welles on the whole.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by 33girl

OK, the one I've got issue with is the Orson Welles example...

Orson Welles got screwed over big time by the studios (which were run by MEN). His risk taking behavior definitely did not cease after Citizen Kane's release...google "It's All True" if you want confirmation. If his creativity seemed to dim, it wasn't because he wanted to do so...it was because he had to eat.

I know this is a weird one to pick out, but it just shows me that this guy didn't do his research.

I agree that it wasn't a good example. That assertation makes sense we're probably wired that way especially if you weren't likely to live past 35.

[DaemonSeid]

ok some of this is hooey

1. Men like blond bombshells (and women want to look like them)

I disagree with the first part...if I ever see another dark skinned woman and the difference beytween here and midnight is 11:59 and she has a platinum colored weave in her head.....siiiiiiigh....

the second part...some of u need to stop letting western culture influence u

2. Humans are naturally polygamous

we get it from animals...hehehe

3. Most women benefit from polygyny, while most men benefit from monogamy
but who would enjoy it more?

4. Most suicide bombers are Muslim


I find especially funny...

'The surprising answer is that Muslim suicide bombing has nothing to do with Islam or the Quran (except for two lines). It has a lot to do with sex, or, in this case, the absence of sex. What distinguishes Islam from other major religions is that it tolerates polygyny'

I heard of blowing your load but dayum.....and did anyone catch the grammtical error in the passage also

5. Having sons reduces the likelihood of divorce

maybe in China



7. What Bill Gates and Paul McCartney have in common with criminals

ok...now we are reaching


8. The midlife crisis is a myth—sort of

errrmm...just shake ur head and move along people

[33girl]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

You're unnecessarily conflating terms here - his assertion wasn't that Welles got rich from Citizen Kane, it's that it was the height of his creative processes and the best example of risk-taking behavior. The fact he got dicked over actually doesn't hurt this assertion. Remember, he doesn't say risk-taking ends - but rather that it is most prevalent in your 20's and fades a bit after.

My point is that CK wasn't necessarily the height of his creative processes or risk-taking - several of his films were taken from his control by the studio and extensively cut. The original negatives - not prints - so we can't definitively say CK is the greatest, "riskiest" movie he ever made as his other films weren't seen the way he made them. IAT touched on a lot of racial taboos which is why much of the footage was destroyed.

I know I'm geeking out on this one, but Orson is my man

And as far as the Paul McCartney reference - I don't think you can compare work done with a group to work done solo. Not only that, "hit song" doesn't always equal "good song."

[Glitter650]

I kinda found the whole thing kinda "skimmed" over the reasons behind the claims.

[OneTimeSBX]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

the second part...some of u need to stop letting western culture influence u

that is true...but look at how much of the western culture has influenced all the others...the Kenya barbie looks just like the Hispanic one, the Asian one, the White one. same shape, different skin tone. i remember when i was little my aunt went and bought me a black barbie doll because the one i had was white. hell, we were so broke she could have been purple. i didnt care!

i strive to teach my daughter that there is nothing wrong with being pretty. or smart. i also strive to teach her that beauty is in so many shapes and sizes, that the term "bombshell" shouldnt even have the word blonde in front of it! i get tired of her being told she is pretty all the time, although she is a beautiful child (im a bit biased, but still...) and the focus should be on her intelligence, which thank the lord she has as well...

[OneTimeSBX]

Originally Posted by 33girl

And as far as the Paul McCartney reference - I don't think you can compare work done with a group to work done solo. Not only that, "hit song" doesn't always equal "good song."

so so true.
for example

she bangs-ricky martin.
ay bay bay-dont care whose song this is.
that song by paris hilton.
mambo #5-lou bega

shall i continue?

[Rudey]

As I've gotten older, I've shifted from blondes to girls with much darker features. I've seen the same thing with my friends. Blondes are fun, but...trashy. I've also started dating girls with curves...so you know girls that are a size 2 instead of a size 0. OK OK I'm messing around now, but most guys I know want to marry brunettes.

-Rudey