When Loyalty and Ignorance Clash

Cain · #1 12-14-2006, 04:58 PM

I have a situation that is sure to keep the Kappa Korner hot for a minute. I haven't posted in quite some time, but I need the opinions of not only the NUPES, but my fellow Greek counterparts.

While using different names and place, here is how the story goes. This brother who will be called "K" has always had a history of conflicts. Even before he pledged, he was known as a "a!*hole". So once he crossed, this was just amplified to another degree. "K" is involved with this female,"P". "P" is just an around the way girl, and not one to settle down with. She is mentally- unstable, and she has dealings with the basket ball team. "K" has said some pretty harsh things about this same Basketball team, for no apparent reason, because again he is an "a$%hole". Now there is beef between the frat, and the basketball team. No personal problems, just the fact that they don't like him, so we are automatically drawn in the confusion, but C'est la vie.

We throw a party where we live at, and we pack the house out. One of the Basketball team members is dancing with "P", and "K" pulls the girl away, 3 TIMES, just to be spiteful. Naturally the B-Ball player says some words to "K" and a mini-scrape breaks out. The bruhs seperate it. I say that Personal beef is just that, PERSONAL. But You won't disrespect my house, and I won't let u jump my brother. They understand, and the party continues. 30 mins later, "K" walks out of the room we had him in, and punches the first B-Ball member he sees. A brawl insues, which leaves "K", on the ground, all alone. Some of the brothers, where in a position to help, but others were not,(like myself). "K" is angry with his LB's and chapter bruhs, because he feels, like nothing was done to help him. So my question to the board is this. What do you do when a brother gets into an altercation, that by all accounts he brought on himself? It seems like a catch 22, were either way it's negative outcomes. Sorry for the long type, but the background story was required. Let me know something

Cain · #2 12-14-2006, 05:00 PM

Sorry for the double post. I don't know how to delete them.

ufdale · #3 12-14-2006, 05:02 PM

try the edit button. There's a place where you can delete your posts... though I don't know if this works if the post is the thread starter.

CrimsonTide4 · #4 12-14-2006, 05:04 PM

Knowing how K is, why did you all let him in the chapter? Was he qualified in every other area except for being a hotheaded person?

Cain · #5 12-14-2006, 05:09 PM

Other than his questionable attitude, he is more than qualified. Smart guy, cool once you know him, it's just that his mouth get's him into unessecary conflicts.

Luckie1922 · #6 12-14-2006, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonTide4

Knowing how K is, why did you all let him in the chapter? Was he qualified in every other area except for being a hotheaded person?

I will help my sorors in anyway I can, but right is right and wrong is wrong…same rule goes for my kids and family…
So many people end up dead and hurt every year because of foolishness…I know that’s your frat but all of his battles are not your battles…if wants to deal with a girl that treats him like an option then that’s on him but someone needs to talk to him about his actions, It’s almost like he continues to do things with the thought that everyone is going to help him fight…let that man know aint nobody on that and he needs to chill

ladygreek · #7 12-14-2006, 10:15 PM

My response is what is best for the greater good, i.e., Kappa as a whole. Gettin into a fight for a brother who unnecessarily brought it upon himself that could have led to arrest and assault charges is not a good look for the frat.

PhDiva · #8 12-14-2006, 10:22 PM

I think your bruhs need to talk to "K" and let him know that you guys don't appreciate him running off at the mouth at the expense of the rest of you like LadyGreek said. But you need to be clear that if a situation like this happens again, bruhman is on his own. Unfortunately, that's the only way some folks learn.

mccoyred · #9 12-15-2006, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by PhDiva

I think your bruhs need to talk to "K" and let him know that you guys don't appreciate him running off at the mouth at the expense of the rest of you like LadyGreek said. But you need to be clear that if a situation like this happens again, bruhman is on his own. Unfortunately, that's the only way some folks learn.

Exactly! K needs to get a grip because he definitely got what he deserved. He better watch his back because the basketball team as a whole may have it out for him.

Senusret I · #10 12-15-2006, 11:55 AM

I ain't fightin' no basketball players.

Not now. Not never.

jojapeach · #11 12-15-2006, 12:12 PM

If he's so worried about his LBs and chapter repping for him, he should be forced to recognize that he should rep himself and KAPsi in the best way possible. He should get beyond that middle school behavior and start to recognize, "So what would happen if I did this?" The chapter or his LBs are not obligated to back up him up when he's starting up isht and then keeping it up.

If he didn't learn how to deal with conflicts and people before or during his process, he's going to have to learn it after his process the hard way. It doesn't sound like he's learned anything since the brawl. I agree with Soror PhDiva that his bruhs may have to sit "K" down and talk to him straight, no chaser.

Cain · #12 12-15-2006, 01:03 PM

I told him the same thing everyone is saying. But dude, is just hard headed for no reason. I told him that people have problems fightin for no reason, especially when they feel forced to do so( i.e The Iraq War). But dude is just in his own world.

But the catch 22 is that it looks bad on the yard as the frat is concerned. Because we didn't take an active approach in helping him, now people question aour unity. I can't say I blame them because perception is law. At the same time, most people don't know the REAL story.

Japan357 · #13 12-21-2006, 06:52 PM

So you let your bruh lay on the ground in his own house and get jumped by the BBall team and the rest of his frat sat and watched?

Even though he was the "asshole" that brought it on himself that still is unimaginable. I'm not saying you all should have gotten into a war with the BBall team but at the very least you should have protected your bruh. Grab him get between the people fighting and get him out of the room while the other bruhs separate the BBall players and kick them out. Then once outside you can talk and apologize say its nothing personal but you just had to look out for your boy in ya'll house and then talk to "K" about his crazy behaviors.

That would look incredibly suspekt on the yard, now everyone thinks the BBall team punked the frat and ya'll aint doin nothin about it.