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Old 12-12-2014, 06:47 PM
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Court reinstates suit against Saban's daughter

Sisters. Embarrassing.

http://www.abc3340.com/story/2761496...abans-daughter


More detail and link to Supreme Court opinion:

Lawsuit against Nick Saban's daughter may go to trial after Alabama Supreme Court reversal:

http://www.al.com/news/tuscaloosa/in...saban_goi.html

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Old 12-12-2014, 07:12 PM
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Here's the sad part. The lawsuit originated because the victim's family asked the Sabans to pay for the deductibles and miscellaneous fees that were not covered by insurance. Nick Saban said no. Ms. Grimes would not have incurred any medical bills had Ms. Saban not gone BSC and attacked her. It seems like with all of the money Nick Saban makes, he could cover the medical expenses.
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Old 12-12-2014, 08:31 PM
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You would think that Nick Saban would have paid those expenses just to keep his name and his family out of such negative publicity. Whether or not his daughter is found guilty, it is an ugly chapter that will be attached to his name.
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Old 12-12-2014, 10:18 PM
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I don't know why the Grimes girl or her family would want it in the news either -- it's just embarrassing all the way around.

I would speculate that the reason the Grimes' claim wasn't just paid by Saban (even if for no other reason than to keep it out of the news) is that this might imply guilt on part of his daughter.

It appears that the Grimes girl was going after a lot more than just her medical deductibles (Grime's Complaint at end of this article):

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74. As a result of the beating, the Plaintiff felt physically threatened
and suffered physical injuries, mental anguish, emotional distress, humiliation,
permanent emotional and psychological injury, and other damages for which she
claims compensatory and punitive damages.


WHEREFORE, PREMISES CONSIDERED, Your Plaintiff demands
judgment against the Defendant Kristen Saban for compensatory and punitive
damages in an amount which the Jury finds reasonable and justifiable under the
circumstances, plus costs and interest, but avers that the Plaintiff's claim is for more
than $10,000.00.


Here is Kristen Saban's Answer filed in response to the Grime's Complaint:
http://ftpcontent4.worldnow.com/wbrc...setogrimes.pdf

Looks like Saban followed later with a Motion for Summary Judgment, which was granted by the Alabama Circuit Court though denied on appeal to the AL Supreme Court.

Looks like a nasty she said/she said ahead.
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Old 12-12-2014, 11:26 PM
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No, there really isn't a she said/she said instance here. I read most of the coverage of the story when it occurred because I know two girls in who were active members in the chapter when it happened, one was in the house during the incident. Ms. Grimes bills are quite extensive especially given that she was brutally attacked in her own home. There is no guilt to be determined. if you read earlier articles, Ms. Saban admitted she hit her.
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Old 12-13-2014, 12:08 AM
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No, there really isn't a she said/she said instance here. I read most of the coverage of the story when it occurred because I know two girls in who were active members in the chapter when it happened, one was in the house during the incident. Ms. Grimes bills are quite extensive especially given that she was brutally attacked in her own home. There is no guilt to be determined. if you read earlier articles, Ms. Saban admitted she hit her.
I guess liability might be a better word choice than guilt.

But the incident occurred in Kristen Saban's apartment (which apparently matters), and Grimes initiated the confrontation/aggression (according to the documents).

That Grimes initiated the confrontation and that Saban aggressed/hit Grimes do not appear to be facts that are in dispute. Saban's Motion for Summary Judgment granted by the AL Circuit Court is here:

http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/assets/pdf/TL28582219.PDF

The she said/she said would seemingly involve aspects of the incident (like Grimes allegedly grabbing Saban's neck initially) which would play out in court. Certainly Grime's original complaint and Saban's Answer (both linked above) differ considerably where the facts are concerned.

As per my understanding (not a legal mind here) -- the AL Supreme Court's reversal of the Circuit Court's granting of Saban's Motion for Summary Judgment is not a ruling in favor of Grimes based on the facts, but just an acknowledgment that there is/are fact(s) in dispute such that Grimes is entitled to proceed with her suit.

Seems like an embarrassing situation of two stupid (possibly intoxicated?) girls in a cat fight -- one started it and the other finished it.
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Old 12-13-2014, 12:26 AM
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Seems like an embarrassing situation
Exactly.
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Old 12-13-2014, 01:42 AM
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Old 12-13-2014, 10:09 AM
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Your sorority is not involved and is not at fault.
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Old 12-13-2014, 01:32 PM
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I'm so proud of my sorority!
This is not a reflection on the sorority -- it's only in the news because it is Saban's daughter, and cringe-worthy (IMO) because it happened at Bama (fodder for those who love to ridicule Alabama).

That they were sorority sisters (not which sorority) just contributes to the drama of the news story. This situation is certainly not characteristic of the girls this chapter pledges, or of the actives in any other chapter at Bama.
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Old 12-13-2014, 02:09 PM
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I believe she is referencing her sorority's response to the crime.
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Old 12-13-2014, 02:43 PM
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Nah, I was just being cheeky. Clearly every group lands in the news for stupid stuff from time to time...I think the fact that this is Saban's daughter is the reason the media doesn't play up the sorority angle more.
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Old 12-13-2014, 02:50 PM
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I don't know why the Grimes girl or her family would want it in the news either -- it's just embarrassing all the way around.

I would speculate that the reason the Grimes' claim wasn't just paid by Saban (even if for no other reason than to keep it out of the news) is that this might imply guilt on part of his daughter.

It appears that the Grimes girl was going after a lot more than just her medical deductibles (Grime's Complaint at end of this article):



Here is Kristen Saban's Answer filed in response to the Grime's Complaint:
http://ftpcontent4.worldnow.com/wbrc...setogrimes.pdf

Looks like Saban followed later with a Motion for Summary Judgment, which was granted by the Alabama Circuit Court though denied on appeal to the AL Supreme Court.

Looks like a nasty she said/she said ahead.
"Wherefore" clauses at the end of complaints ask for damages based on which division of a court the lawyer prefers to be in. Ie. In Illinois, we plead a damages request on the basis of whether we want to be in small claims court vs. magistrate court vs. law court. It doesn't have much to do with what the case will settle for, eventually. It also doesn't always have much to do with what we originally asked for. There are plenty of times when we're willing to settle cheap before we have to file suit, but once we have to file suit, we're asking for as much as we can get.
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Old 12-13-2014, 03:39 PM
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This makes me wish that Ms. Saban would come to GreekChat and write her recruitment story! Wonder if any group released her?
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Old 12-13-2014, 04:28 PM
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