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Old 08-06-2011, 02:26 AM
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Looks like we have a few black supremecists on our hands

http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/126825018.html

"It was 100% racial," claimed Eric, an Iraq war veteran from St. Francis who says young people beat on his car.

"I had a black couple on my right side, and these black kids were running in between all the cars, and they were pounding on my doors and trying to open up doors on my car, and they didn't do one thing to this black couple that was in this car next to us. They just kept walking right past their car. They were looking in everybody's windshield as they were running by, seeing who was white and who was black. Guarantee it."

"I saw them grab this white kid who was probably 14 or 15 years old. They just flung him into the road. They just jumped on him and started beating him. They were kicking him. He was on the ground. A girl picked up a construction sign and pushed it over on top of him. They were just running by and kicking him in the face."
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Old 08-06-2011, 02:47 AM
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Wow...

I have no words.. :-(
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Old 08-06-2011, 09:19 AM
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EW, were you hurt badly?
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Old 08-06-2011, 09:41 AM
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There are more than a few Black supremacists in the world. Welcome to what began in the 1930s and has taken violent forms quite a few times (the relatively rare occasions where Black supremacists feel they have the resources and the power to do something) in the world's history.

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EW, were you hurt badly?
The fact that EW (Mr. Day Late Dollar Short) started this thread is very funny.
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Old 08-06-2011, 09:52 AM
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"There were even some young black girls. They were screaming. They were running across the road. This one girl was like, 'I don't know how I'm going to get out of here. I'm all by myself.' My wife heard her saying that. She said, 'Walk with us. Stay with us and you'll be OK.' We told her we were going down the street. If she needed any assistance, we were just going down to our car. She needed to go quite a way."
I guess these Black girls didn't get the memo that Black people were safe. I assume Black people were safe. I guess we'll never know if this was primarily racial violence.

Some of those dumbass youth were handled and proper measures will be taken:

http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/loc...cc4c03286.html

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Old 08-06-2011, 11:32 AM
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Black supremacists? I don't know.

Violent criminals with an apparent racial bias? Yep.
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Old 08-06-2011, 11:42 AM
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This was COMPLETELY taken out of context, but that's to be expected from TMJ4.

West Allis is an area in which this type of behavior is honestly the norm from teenagers of any race.

In addition, the reason this entire riot started was a clash between two groups protesting/supporting Scott Walker at the fair.

It obviously escalated far beyond that. I just wish one station would at least mention that.
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Old 08-06-2011, 11:45 AM
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LOL at the witness accounts. I was waiting to read all about the gunfire after the first guy said it was just like Iraq. Then he says 400-800 black kids are beating people when everyone else says more like 100. Hyperbole much?
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Old 08-06-2011, 03:39 PM
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LOL at the witness accounts. I was waiting to read all about the gunfire after the first guy said it was just like Iraq. Then he says 400-800 black kids are beating people when everyone else says more like 100. Hyperbole much?
Says the "hyperbolizer".

If I read correctly, one person says 50-100 and that was inside the fair. He was outside the fair in his car.

But it's definitely their socio-economic status, long history of oppression that causes them to do this. The same thing definitely happens in West Virginia.
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Old 08-06-2011, 07:23 PM
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Says the "hyperbolizer".

If I read correctly, one person says 50-100 and that was inside the fair. He was outside the fair in his car.

But it's definitely their socio-economic status, long history of oppression that causes them to do this. The same thing definitely happens in West Virginia.
You didnt have to give yourself a new nickname for trying to oversell a riot. Supremacy?

Read your article again and find the other quote that references the number "a hundred" for the estimate of rioters. I will admit I oversold what the original guy said, but that was from poor memory after closing the article. Go ahead and slap my hand. He said 300 or 400 people were there. Still far short of a war torn zone, especially considering this other quote:

"I have not seen anything like this in my life.* It was a huge mob, and it was a fight that maybe lasted one to two minutes." Two minutes of Iraq. What a slap in the face.
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Old 08-06-2011, 07:35 PM
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You didnt have to give yourself a new nickname for trying to oversell a riot. Supremacy?
A mob lynching of a black man (which this appeared, at least according to eyewitnesses, to be attempted murder several times) would certainly be connotated as white supremecists, whether or not it was true. Do you think that Emmett Till's attackers motives were exaggerated?

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Read your article again and find the other quote that references the number "a hundred" for the estimate of rioters. I will admit I oversold what the original guy said, but that was from poor memory after closing the article. Go ahead and slap my hand. He said 300 or 400 people were there. Still far
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You missed the point.

You said:
"everyone else says more like 100"

I said:
"If I read correctly, one person says 50-100 and that was inside the fair. He was outside the fair in his car."

But I guess you committed to hyperbole twice. One person is not "everyone else".
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Old 08-06-2011, 07:49 PM
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It sounds like these kids were a bunch of thugs, and no one was safe--regardless of race. I'm not sure if they were black "supremecists," but I don't think they were black "supremacists."
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Old 08-06-2011, 08:04 PM
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A mob lynching of a black man (which this appeared, at least according to eyewitnesses, to be attempted murder several times) would certainly be connotated as white supremecists, whether or not it was true. Do you think that Emmett Till's attackers motives were exaggerated?


You missed the point.

You said:
"everyone else says more like 100"

I said:
"If I read correctly, one person says 50-100 and that was inside the fair. He was outside the fair in his car."


But I guess you committed to hyperbole twice. One person is not "everyone else".
And I said go back and read the article...everyone else did say that. (including someone outside the fair.) It's not hyperbole to quote the article. It is to turn a riot into a race war.

LOL at the appeared to be attempted murder and comparing this to a lynching. So is it Iraq or a lynching. Riots can be scary. Attempted murder is a legal term. Assault may be a little more befitting. Let the DA do the grandstanding.
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Old 08-06-2011, 08:12 PM
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And I said go back and read the article...everyone else did say that. (including someone outside the fair.) It's not hyperbole to quote the article. It is to turn a riot into a race war.
No on else said that. Quote the article for me. Where exactly does it give a number other than one inside the fair and the veteran?
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Old 08-06-2011, 08:17 PM
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No on else said that. Quote the article for me. Where exactly does it give a number other than one inside the fair and the veteran?
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One woman who asked not to be identified tells us that contrary to some belief, the young people involved in the mob did not go to the rap concert that night.

"The mob of black teenagers involved in the beatings and damage outside of State Fair last night were not there for the MC Hammer concert," said the woman.

"I attended that concert with three of my friends last night and the crowd was mostly white and adult (as are my friends and I). Any kids there seemed to be with parents."

She described what she saw as she left the fair.

"As we came through the exit we saw a white boy lying in the street, in the fetal position right by the traffic light, and coming towards us was tons and tons and black teens – there had to have been over a hundred – in the middle of 84th Street and on the sidewalk headed south," she said.
Hooked on phonics worked for me! Notice she said over a hundred and not over 300 or 400.
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