Wikileaks to release more info

starang21 · #1 08-25-2010, 09:20 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/08/25/wik...ex.html?hpt=T2

WikiLeaks, the whistleblower website that infuriated the Pentagon when it published thousands of classified military reports, said it will release a fresh set of documents Wednesday.

The group posted on its Twitter page Tuesday: "WikiLeaks to release CIA paper tomorrow." It did not specify a time.

The website set off a firestorm recently when it posted some 76,000 U.S. documents related to the war in Afghanistan. The group has said it has another 15,000 documents, which it plans to release soon.

It was not immediately clear whether the Twitter post on Tuesday is related to the batch of documents that WikiLeaks has called the "Afghan War Diary."

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Kevin · #2 08-25-2010, 04:21 PM

God bless 'em.

One can only hope that this sort of thing makes military commanders think twice about some of the things they do in the name of this country; not to mention some of the bull**** things we send our young men and women into harm's way for.

PiKA2001 · #3 08-25-2010, 04:27 PM

How did he get all of these documents to begin with? The article never explains that.

Kevin · #4 08-25-2010, 06:26 PM

Leaked by a soldier.

PiKA2001 · #5 08-25-2010, 07:25 PM

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Leaked by a soldier.

Were the documents "Leaked" or stolen? Whatever, I'll read up on it up later.

Am I the only person who thinks these documents are only being published to further anti-American sentiments regarding the war?

preciousjeni · #6 08-25-2010, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Were the documents "Leaked" or stolen? Whatever, I'll read up on it up later.

Am I the only person who thinks these documents are only being published to further anti-American sentiments regarding the war?

I'm positive you are not alone in your psychotic paranoia.

Drolefille · #7 08-25-2010, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Am I the only person who thinks these documents are only being published to further anti-American sentiments regarding the war?

You're not familiar with wikileaks at all, are you?

PiKA2001 · #8 08-25-2010, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

You're not familiar with wikileaks at all, are you?

I'm not, and I don't think anyone will be answering to anything that they leak. OMG the government is doing shady things in wartime? Say it ain't so!

Maybe I'm just being pessimistic but I don't see anything good coming from this other than encouraging more insurgency against the troops there. No soldier or officer is going to be held accountable for any "exposed" atrocity and we will just end up in Afghanistan even longer now.

Drolefille · #9 08-25-2010, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001

I'm not, and I don't think anyone will be answering to anything that they leak. OMG the government is doing shady things in wartime? Say it ain't so!

Maybe I'm just being pessimistic but I don't see anything good coming from this other than encouraging more insurgency against the troops there. No soldier or officer is going to be held accountable for any "exposed" atrocity and we will just end up in Afghanistan even longer now.

Wikileaks exposes information for the sake of exposing it. It's not really about expected results (like punishment for atrocities or changing sentiment). They post pretty much everything they get their hands on. The guy who is responsible for the leaks is in the military judicial ... process... right now.

PiKA2001 · #10 08-25-2010, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by preciousjeni

I'm positive you are not alone in your psychotic paranoia.

Ha! I've never been referred to as being psychotic or paranoid in my life. Good thing you are here to diagnose me.

BTW, Would the guy who leaked the Afghan War Diaries be considered paranoid with this statement he made?

"Everywhere there’s a U.S. post, there’s a diplomatic scandal that will be revealed."

PiKA2001 · #11 08-26-2010, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

The guy who is responsible for the leaks is in the military judicial ... process... right now.

He's fucked but I can't say I feel bad for him. He was in the intel community, he knew the consequences better than anybody else. I just hope he feels it was worth it.

starang21 · #12 08-26-2010, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001

He's fucked but I can't say I feel bad for him. He was in the intel community, he knew the consequences better than anybody else. I just hope he feels it was worth it.

if i recall, he was a hacker. not in the intel community.

i'm not a fan of this. war crimes happen. it's war. not to justify, but it's reality, and it's on both sides. this country does plenty of illegal shit to protect it's citizens and further it's national interests. not unlike every other country in the world.

al gore said it best:

"That's a no-brainer. Of course it's a violation of international law, that's why it's a covert action."

Kevin · #13 08-26-2010, 09:33 AM

Hopefully, this sort of thing will change our government's behavior. Maybe they'll not do things and think those things will stay secret forever if they are just classified a certain way. Doubtful, of course.

preciousjeni · #14 08-26-2010, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Ha! I've never been referred to as being psychotic or paranoid in my life. Good thing you are here to diagnose me.

BTW, Would the guy who leaked the Afghan War Diaries be considered paranoid with this statement he made?

"Everywhere there’s a U.S. post, there’s a diplomatic scandal that will be revealed."

Only teasing (but, I do agree with the quote).

KSig RC · #15 08-26-2010, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin

Hopefully, this sort of thing will change our government's behavior. Maybe they'll not do things and think those things will stay secret forever if they are just classified a certain way. Doubtful, of course.

Yep - the sort of Nicholson-movie-quote "BAD GUYS DO BAD THINGS TO PROTECT GOOD PEOPLE" trope is tired and outdated in a general sense, and certainly shouldn't be carried out on the foot-soldier level regardless of location.

I can't see a downside to better transparency and accountability for military actions. War is hell, but it shouldn't breed heathenism.