Wake Forest Pi Phi's

4mom · #1 08-25-2010, 01:37 PM

Anybody else out there steamed about how Pi Phi national handled this? They didn't involve parents, and totally rebuffed efforts by the university to work out a plan. They just revoked the charter, and won't give any examples of any specific acts that they considered objectionable. The offenses at Wake were nowhere near what happened at their chapters at other schools, namely Miami U and Ohio U. The girls who just initiated can not join any other NPC group - they really got the short end of the stick. No dues refunds or anything. No responses to letters from parents. No way to treat a sister!!

AlphaFrog · #2 08-25-2010, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 4mom

Anybody else out there steamed about how Pi Phi national handled this? They didn't involve parents, and totally rebuffed efforts by the university to work out a plan. They just revoked the charter, and won't give any examples of any specific acts that they considered objectionable. The offenses at Wake were nowhere near what happened at their chapters at other schools, namely Miami U and Ohio U. The girls who just initiated can not join any other NPC group - they really got the short end of the stick. No dues refunds or anything. No responses to letters from parents. No way to treat a sister!!

Dirty laundry is for your hamper, not GC.

ComradesTrue · #3 08-25-2010, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 4mom

Anybody else out there steamed about how Pi Phi national handled this? They didn't involve parents, and totally rebuffed efforts by the university to work out a plan. They just revoked the charter, and won't give any examples of any specific acts that they considered objectionable. The offenses at Wake were nowhere near what happened at their chapters at other schools, namely Miami U and Ohio U. The girls who just initiated can not join any other NPC group - they really got the short end of the stick. No dues refunds or anything. No responses to letters from parents. No way to treat a sister!!

Yikes! Quite a first post there.

Not sure what you mean about involving parents. What role should they have as NON-members of the organization?

dukemama · #4 08-25-2010, 01:50 PM

I'm thinking this thread should be moved to the Pi Phi forum at the very least.

als463 · #5 08-25-2010, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 4mom

Anybody else out there steamed about how Pi Phi national handled this? They didn't involve parents, and totally rebuffed efforts by the university to work out a plan. They just revoked the charter, and won't give any examples of any specific acts that they considered objectionable. The offenses at Wake were nowhere near what happened at their chapters at other schools, namely Miami U and Ohio U. The girls who just initiated can not join any other NPC group - they really got the short end of the stick. No dues refunds or anything. No responses to letters from parents. No way to treat a sister!!

Wow! Another helicopter parent who felt the need to complain on GC because her child got the short end of the stick. You are making Pi Phi look bad; as well as, your daughter. If her chapter screwed up, let her deal with it. Even if you are an alumna, to make your first post on a Greek Chat website about how upset you are with Pi Phi, seems pretty tacky.

HAVE SOME CLASS!

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MysticCat · #6 08-25-2010, 02:11 PM

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You are making Pi Phi look bad; as well as, your daughter.

No, she's just making herself look bad.

als463 · #7 08-25-2010, 02:15 PM

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No, she's just making herself look bad.

No, you're right. Thank you for pointing that out. I actually contemplated going back and explaining that I didn't think Pi Phi looked bad, just the mom but, I'm trying to make Dr.Phil proud....lol

33girl · #8 08-25-2010, 02:51 PM

The majority of parents are not members of the sorority or the chapter. Therefore, it's really none of their business.

I have never, over 25 years, heard of parents being notified or otherwise involved by a fraternity or sorority regarding chapter discipline or revocation.

Low C Sharp · #9 08-25-2010, 04:27 PM

I can understand, if a parent paid the dues, that she would want to know why they weren't going to get any product in return for that money.

But as for bringing it up here...I don't see the point.

33girl · #10 08-25-2010, 05:03 PM

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I can understand, if a parent paid the dues, that she would want to know why they weren't going to get any product in return for that money.

The parents' names aren't on the contract (for lack of a better word) to pay dues. The daughter's is. Where the daughter gets the $$ really isn't the sorority's concern. I mean what if the member borrows money from a random friend? Would the sorority have to notify them? Don't think so.

pibetaphi2013 · #11 08-25-2010, 05:17 PM

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I can understand, if a parent paid the dues, that she would want to know why they weren't going to get any product in return for that money.

We pay dues every semester, and Wake Forest lost their charter over the summer. Technically speaking, everyone got what they'd paid for, though not what they signed up to pay for.

Senusret I · #12 08-25-2010, 04:48 PM

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Anybody else out there steamed about how Pi Phi national handled this?

I definitely am!!! My D was one of the girls affected by this and she was totally blindsided. DH and I plan on rolling up to Town & Country, MO and giving these ladies a piece of our mind!

Want to car pool?

aopirose · #13 08-25-2010, 05:04 PM

I need a ride too Sen. I'll spring for mojitos when we get there.

TXalum1 · #14 08-25-2010, 05:07 PM

Have some faith in your daughters and let them handle things if they want some answers. Also, make sure you have the entire story.
Angry helicopters never make a good impression on anybody.

blondie_babe · #15 08-25-2010, 05:28 PM

I think parent's have a right to be part of problems that come up in sorority or fraternity affairs but not other organizations. If you don't like a chapter or the things they do be happy you aren't part of it nont go around bashing them. I am sure though whatever the chapter did was worth losing the charter bc that is like a step 10 decision. You normally get fines or probation. The girls are a colony aren't they? All the guys I know that lost the charter still had the same number so they started over as a colony and regained status after 3 or 4 years.