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Old 04-22-2009, 07:42 AM
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NY Mom kicks kids out of car and drives off.

WHITE PLAINS, N.Y. – Usually, it's an empty threat: "If you kids don't stop fighting, I'm going to stop this car right now and leave you here!" But a mother from an upper-crust New York suburb went through with it, ordering her battling 10- and 12-year-old daughters out of her car in White Plains' business district and driving off, police said Tuesday.

Madlyn Primoff, 45, a partner in a Manhattan law firm, pleaded not guilty Monday to a charge of endangering a child. A temporary order of protection was issued, barring her from contact with the children, who were physically unharmed.

Primoff's lawyer, Vincent Briccetti, would not comment Tuesday on details of the case. But he said, "Madlyn is a great mother connected with a great family, and she is grateful for the outpouring of support from friends and family."

There wasn't much support from strangers, however. Mothers interviewed near the scene said they couldn't imagine doing what Primoff did, though some understood the urge.

Iris Gorodess, 49, of Mahopac, who has four children ranging from 10 to 19 years old, said she sympathized with Primoff's actions, right up to the point where she pulled away.

"I used to pull over and make the kids change seats. Also, I make sure the kids have their iPods and their games. And I have a minivan, so they're not up my neck all the time.

"But I can't see pulling away. That has to be too scary for the children."

White Plains police said Primoff ordered the arguing girls out of the car Sunday evening as they were driving home. She left them at Post Road and South Broadway, an area of shops and offices 3 miles from their home, then drove off, the police report said.

The report does not say whether the girls had cell phones.

Police would not say if Primoff ever returned to look for the girls, but they said, without explaining how, that the 12-year-old eventually caught up with the mother. The 10-year-old was found by a "Good Samaritan" on the street, upset and emotional about losing her mother, police said.

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I was on her side right up until she didn't go back to pick them up....if she had just sat there for a few minutes and teasd like she was going to pull off or took a sloooooooow drive around the block...she would have been ok!
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Old 04-22-2009, 09:05 AM
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Haha - I could see my mom doing this. I could see her pulling off but I don't think she would have went far though...maybe just down the block a ways and pulling over or maybe just around the block.

She would have come back though. lol
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Old 04-22-2009, 09:05 AM
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She's a partner at Kaye Scholer (one of the top law firms in the country, if not the world); here's her bio: http://www.kayescholer.com/professionals/primoff_madlyn .

I'm sure her partners aren't happy about this kind of attention.
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Old 04-22-2009, 09:11 AM
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She's a partner at Kaye Scholer (one of the top law firms in the country, if not the world); here's her bio: http://www.kayescholer.com/professionals/primoff_madlyn .

I'm sure her partners aren't happy about this kind of attention.
That's the first thing I looked for when I found out her name and firm. Those lawyer bios are often investigative gold!
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Old 04-22-2009, 09:18 AM
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That's the first thing I looked for when I found out her name and firm. Those lawyer bios are often investigative gold!
Ok, glad I wasn't the only one who did that. Kaye Scholer is no joke and has a ridiculous client list, so I'll bet there was some sort of meeting with the managing partner or executive committee after this news broke.
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Old 04-22-2009, 10:24 AM
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Looking at her bio, I'd say she's probably under a ricockulous amount of stress right now. That doesn't excuse what she did, but it might explain.
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Old 04-22-2009, 10:26 AM
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Looking at her bio, I'd say she's probably under a ricockulous amount of stress right now. That doesn't excuse what she did, but it might explain.
Although she's probably gotten a lot of business lately - if you're having business issues right now, Kaye Scholer is one of the firms where you'll go, and from her resume I'm guessing she's got some of the bigger clients.

If she's kicking kids out of her car, I wonder what her associates are doing...
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Old 04-22-2009, 10:27 AM
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Looking at her bio, I'd say she's probably under a ricockulous amount of stress right now. That doesn't excuse what she did, but it might explain.
I agree with this. Especially seeing that she had a lot of stressors during the time. Not that it gives her the right to do so, but her mental state may have been clouded.

Kaye Scholer? wow, that is a great company
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Old 04-22-2009, 10:45 AM
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Old 04-23-2009, 10:49 PM
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When my step team was driving back from a competition and the coach pulled over and put a girl out of the van. She was around 15 and was being a brat to the nth degree. The coach just drove around the block and came back and we all had a good laugh, but I'm sure I know what parents everywhere would say about putting a girl out on the street in an unfamiliar city at 10-something at night. I guess you can say I understand both sides. But that incident made me laugh and so does this one. :shrug:
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Old 04-23-2009, 11:12 PM
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So you can't leave 10 and 12 your year old kids in White Plains alone for any length of time or it's child endangerment?

That seems weird to me. I know that it's kind of normal for parents to be paranoid about their own kids these days, but I don't think there's really the criminal data to back it up. And my mom would probably have let me be alone for some length of time at that age, like in a you can look around at stuff and we'll meet back here in 30 minutes kind of way. Granted, she wouldn't have fake abandoned me from the car, but the charges don't seem to be a result of psychological abuse from the threat, but instead seem to reflect the idea that leaving a kid in White Plains business district is in itself illegal.

Weird.

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Old 04-24-2009, 12:20 AM
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Or better yet, told thenm before they went out the door, "Act like you got some dayum sense and don't embrrass me."

My mom is a certified spankologist
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Kids don't become "totally out of control" over night. Put the fear of Mom in them when they are little and you will be ok in the end. Ask lilnikki: all Mommy has to do is drop her voice, and things get done.

DS: my mom is a certified spankologist as well. Hence, why I've never been to jail or been put out of a car. B/c M. Butler WOULD do that. And drive off.
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My mother was definetly a certified spankologist as well.
Honeychile, you are correct, the need for discipline began years ago. This mother should have KNOWN how to control her kids, but then that would have meant that she would have to pay attention to her children to begin with.
I cannot remember a spanking since I was about 2-3 years old, but THE LOOK was alive and well in our house. We were asked, "What would you do if you had a child who acted like you?" and I would think, "I'd spank them real good!" I think the furtherest my parents had to go by the time we were in middle school was a very stiff squeeze on the shoulder.

If parents would just do their jobs before the kids enter school, they wouldn't be leaving them on the side on the road. So many teachers complain that more of their day is spent discipling their students rather than teaching them to NOT ignore them. I'm not saying to beat the kids (there's a place on the human body for swatting), but for everybody's sake, they need to learn discipline.

nikki1920, sounds like you have it all together with lilnikki - good work!
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Old 04-22-2009, 10:48 AM
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....if she had just sat there for a few minutes and teased like she was going to pull off or took a sloooooooow drive around the block...she would have been ok!
sounds like something my mom would've done if my sister and I had gotten out of control
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Old 04-22-2009, 11:39 AM
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I may be evil, but the mom would get no problems from me! It seems like the kids needed to learn a lesson. The 12 year old caught up with the mom so it seems to me that she didnt go very far from where she left them. Since she called police looking for her daughter shortly after Police picked the daughter up seems like she was looking for her even before the police got her. There are crazy people everywhere, but they were 3 miles from home in a very well off neighborhood. I'm pretty shure the mother didnt fear for their safety.
Quite frankly were it my mom not only would she follow through with the threat she'd punish us both if one of us came back without the other. Sometimes you have to follow through with the threats you make or your words become meaningless. I'll bet next time they're in the car and she tells them to shut it or get put out they'll shut up!
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Old 04-22-2009, 11:56 AM
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I may be evil, but the mom would get no problems from me! It seems like the kids needed to learn a lesson. The 12 year old caught up with the mom so it seems to me that she didnt go very far from where she left them. Since she called police looking for her daughter shortly after Police picked the daughter up seems like she was looking for her even before the police got her.
What lesson have they learned, really?

According to other news sources, she called her town's police from HOME and reported the 10 year-old missing. The 12 year-old ran and caught up to the car. The fact that she managed to get the other kid, GO HOME, and then call the police is beyond the pale.
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