snaps/QA's to girls already cut?

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[aopirose]

It would completely depend on the reason for release the first time.

[violetpretty]

Originally Posted by lemnlime2

Is it possible for a girl to get a snap bid or quota addition from a sorority if she has been already cut by that sorority? Say, the PNM is cut from ABC after round 2, and thus never prefs them, but instead prefs other sororities. If the PNM isn't matched to any of the sororities she did pref, is it possible for a sorority that cut her before to now offer her a bid?

Quota additions are to match a PNM to one of the chapters where she attended preference. If the PNM ranks all of her preference chapters and they fill quota before getting to her name on the list, she is eligible to be a QA at one of her preference chapters, placement will vary based on pre-recruitment chapter size, her placement on each chapters' lists, and her preferences. Women who do not rank all of their preference chapters are not eligible to be quota additions; this is a measure to discourage suiciding. No one except the Panhellenic advisor will know who the QAs are. The PNM in question would not be a QA because PNMs can only be QAs to chapters where they attended preference.

Snap bids are for women who have dropped out of recruitment, or have gone unmatched through regular bid matching (almost always a result of suiciding or ranking two of a possible three). Chapters who have not reached quota during bid matching will have a list of women that they would like to join who cut their chapter, either by conventional means, not ranking it after preference, or dropping out. The chapter ranks the women on this snap bidding list in order of preference, and these women will be called by a member of Panhellenic and offered a bid. If a woman chooses to accept, she will attend bid day with the rest of the new member class and very few women from the chapter will know who the snap bid is. I am pretty sure (but any GCers correct me if this is wrong) that you can not place women that your chapter has cut on your snap bid list. Therefore, a PNM who was cut by a chapter would not be eligible for a snap bid either. ETA: Chapters may put PNMs they cut on their snap bid list.

Once formal recruitment, bid matching, and snap bidding are over, chapters who have not made quota or have made quota and are still under total may bid any PNM they please (provided she has the necessary GPA and credits or is a full time student, etc), including a PNM that they cut during formal recruitment. The PNM in question would be eligible for a bid after formal recruitment is over if the chapter has not filled quota or is under total following formal recruitment. Understand that although a chapter CAN offer a bid to a PNM they cut during formal recruitment, whether they WILL is a different story.

The policies that determine eligibility for QAs and snap bids are set to encourage PNMs and chapters to play fair during formal recruitment.

[SWTXBelle]

I'm just wondering - do the new release figures (which mean that chapters might have to cut women they otherwise might not) figure into this in any way?

[PeppyGPhiB]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

I'm just wondering - do the new release figures (which mean that chapters might have to cut women they otherwise might not) figure into this in any way?

It's for this reason that I thought snap bid lists included every woman who registered for recruitment that did not receive a bid. Many chapters are forced to release women that they still might want.

[violetpretty]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

It's for this reason that I thought snap bid lists included every woman who registered for recruitment that did not receive a bid. Many chapters are forced to release women that they still might want.

The only thing is that chapters that are "forced" to release so many women are usually not the ones that need a snap bid list, as in, they usually make quota. You don't want chapters to tell PNMs "Sorry we had to cut you, but you should drop out and maybe you'll be at the top of our snap bid list."

[jwright25]

Chapters MAY extend snap bids to women that they released. If they choose to do so. That's their call, and there are no NPC rules forbidding it. Each individual organization may have preferences one way or the other, but they can if they want.

[HuskyAlum]

From the 2007 NPC Resolutions:

"Resolved, That any chapter may prepare a separate Snap Bid List that can be used at the proper time for determining Snap Bids and that the only qualification for a potential new member's name to be eligible to appear on that list is that she has participated in the recruitment process by attending at least one round of recruitment."

I'm going to interpret this as follows: A PNM does can be cut by a chapter and then offered a Snap Bid at the end of recruitment if said chapter has not made quota. There is no requirement that the PNMs on that list have to had cut the chapter, not vice versa.

[AnchorAlumna]

I hope the OP is not counting on getting a bid that way. Because she is bound to be disappointed.

[violetpretty]

Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna

I hope the OP is not counting on getting a bid that way. Because she is bound to be disappointed.

Since it is the beginning of April, and I can only think of one school that does formal recruitment this late, I can assume she (or her "friend") attends that school and is currently going through, disappointed about being cut from a particular chapter after round 2, and wondering if she still has a chance with that chapter, or that she (or her "friend") has gone through, dropped out or was cross-released, and is wondering if there is a "cut once, cut always" policy.

If it is the former, I really wouldn't bank on getting a snap bid to a chapter that cut me after round 2. They will most likely make quota, and on the off chance that they do have to snap bid, there will be girls that were cut after round 3 above you on the list.

If it is the latter, it depends on the chapter, and the reason for the release (if there was one other than numbers). I know my chapter has bid 2 girls that we cut before; they just didn't open up much formal recruitment, but we got to know them much better during informal recruitment. It seems silly to me that a chapter would have a "cut once cut always" policy without examining the PNM and the circumstances (i.e. maybe a shy freshman with a low GPA becomes an outgoing sophomore with a great GPA and many friends in the chapter the next year), but some members of chapters do claim to have such a policy.