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11-20-2006, 11:19 PM
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The Seinfeld Dude....
I never really got into this Seinfeld show...it seemed to be lacking...something. But I did catch this Michael Richards dude going off on some gents who were talking during his comedy club.... act.
I am sure yall saw the video on this guy dropping the N-word a few times then went to the
"50 years ago, you would have been hanging in a tree with a effing fork shoved up your a$$"
Yeah....nice work funny man..... I suggest the sindication checks go direct deposit because some of the peeps might want to discuss your views on diversity....
Richards...your career is.....FORKED!
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11-21-2006, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by n4sir5
I never really got into this Seinfeld show...it seemed to be lacking...something. But I did catch this Michael Richards dude going off on some gents who were talking during his comedy club.... act.
I am sure yall saw the video on this guy dropping the N-word a few times then went to the
"50 years ago, you would have been hanging in a tree with a effing fork shoved up your a$$"
Yeah....nice work funny man..... I suggest the sindication checks go direct deposit because some of the peeps might want to discuss your views on diversity....
Richards...your career is.....FORKED!
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I was just talking with a coworker about this whole incident. This confirms that I made the correct choice in not watching these white bread type shows...
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11-21-2006, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by mccoyred
I was just talking with a coworker about this whole incident. This confirms that I made the correct choice in not watching these white bread type shows...
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I used to like Seinfeld but I think it is significant that popular shows such as those are marketed as mainstream nonracialized comedies that anyone can relate to and laugh at. Yeah, so whites are the majority but they need to go ahead and admit that you won't see black people in most of those shows. These are just friends who go around their lives in a show about random funny things happening--but there are only white people around. Right. 
However, shows like Martin or Girlfriends are marketed as black comedies or sistagurl shows--even if people could really relate to the content beyond race. One on One has a mixed race cast now so I wonder who it's appealing to. Hell, even the Cosby Show and A Different World had white characters in it from time to time who were allowed to have prominent acting roles.
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11-21-2006, 01:00 PM
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11-21-2006, 03:58 PM
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We all at some point have attacked someone appearance black, white, fat, ugly etc, but what made this different is comment about the hanging of blacks.
People tend to add the truth in their argument when there is deliberately trying to hurt someone; it’s not only an unintelligent way to express ones angry it is also cruel.
More importantly I don’t believe he is sorry about his comments, I believe he wish he had not been video taped while doing it. Maybe he is a racist but in my opinion he is definitely a moron.
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11-21-2006, 04:10 PM
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I used to like Seinfeld but I think it is significant that popular shows such as those are marketed as mainstream nonracialized comedies that anyone can relate to and laugh at.
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But this one wasn't nonracialized, because it was marketed as Jewish comedy. I don't think they thought anyone could relate; it just so happened that many people did.
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11-21-2006, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckie1922
We all at some point have attacked someone appearance black, white, fat, ugly etc, but what made this different is comment about the hanging of blacks.
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Don't bet your life savings on this.
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11-21-2006, 04:42 PM
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But this one wasn't nonracialized, because it was marketed as Jewish comedy.
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Oh that's right--the particular TYPE of comedy is often attributed to Jewish people.
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11-21-2006, 05:04 PM
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I can't agree that Seinfeld was a comdey for any certain race. My father and brother loved that show and got me into watching the reruns after the season finale. Sure, there could have been more diversity on the show, but it was better than Friends in that department. But really, we watched the show because the writing was really good for the actors cast.
Jerry Seinfeld many other "lovable" media icons could be the biggest jerks out there, but because they love making money off their profession, they try their best to hide it. So Richards' tirade doesn't shock me as much as dissapoint me. He was a has-been who could have went out as an all-star but left a bum. Even if he has lots of money, he lost my respect.
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11-21-2006, 07:25 PM
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1. Should we be shocked by some old guy's rantings?
2. If we are shocked, then did WE, those who identify with being Afrikans in Amerikkklan really think we were accepted into mainstream society?
3. Would he have said that chit in front of the Crips and the Bloods?
4. What would Katt Williams say? Or Mike Epps? Rising careers of comedians who say that chit all the time...
5. Would homie dare show his face up in Def Comedy Jam?
6. Would he do it in front of the King's of Comedy?
7. Does dude have delusions?
8. I am really not trying to do another MD Consult service here...
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11-21-2006, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet
1. Should we be shocked by some old guy's rantings?
2. If we are shocked, then did WE, those who identify with being Afrikans in Amerikkklan really think we were accepted into mainstream society?
3. Would he have said that chit in front of the Crips and the Bloods?
4. What would Katt Stevens say? Or Mike Epps? Rising careers of comedians who say that chit all the time...
5. Would homie dare show his face up in Def Comedy Jam?
6. Would he do it in front of the King's of Comedy?
7. Does dude have delusions?
8. I am really not trying to do another MD Consult service here...
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Everyone you mentioned (well besides most crips and bloods I guess) are much better comedians than Michael Richards. I'm more shocked that you would compare him to the Kings of Comedy than by his actual rant. The guy is a hack in the industry and proved it. The Apollo Amateur Night rejects have more class than him. He didn't write his own character in Seinfeld, so he could also be dumber than rocks too.
On a semi-tangent, I was trying to think about what he could do to redeem himself somehow. He's not really, really old or anything. Maybe he should try to get on Comicview or something like that. I know they wouldn't want him on, but millions of people would tune in to see what happens when he takes the stage. If he could handle it, then I'd take back my criticism of his composure only. His character is still looking pretty bad right now.
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11-21-2006, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by PhrozenGod01
Everyone you mentioned (well besides most crips and bloods I guess) are much better comedians than Michael Richards. I'm more shocked that you would compare him to the Kings of Comedy than by his actual rant. The guy is a hack in the industry and proved it. The Apollo Amateur Night rejects have more class than him. He didn't write his own character in Seinfeld, so he could also be dumber than rocks too.
On a semi-tangent, I was trying to think about what he could do to redeem himself somehow. He's not really, really old or anything. Maybe he should try to get on Comicview or something like that. I know they wouldn't want him on, but millions of people would tune in to see what happens when he takes the stage. If he could handle it, then I'd take back my criticism of his composure only. His character is still looking pretty bad right now.
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I fail to see how I compared this luser to the "King's of Comedy"... I think you have read way too much into what I exactly stated, which clearly was, would homeboy say that same chit in front of them...
Is homey a fairly decent stand-up comedian? He maybe an "okay" actor that was funny, back in the day... And he invoked some of his "contacts" to "jumpstart" his career. If he was trying to make that change, cannot have redemption, ever... Unless he did a stand-up comedy routine at Def Comedy Jam with Russell Simmons... Maybe I'd give him props if he survives...
What's the difference between Michael Richards using the "n-word" versus Katt Williams or Mike Epps--who use it all the time? The audience racial make-up? The "level" of understanding? Richards loses his temper due to a heckler and says racial epithets that were not funny... Katt or Mike say almost the same thing, it's funny as hayle...
The use of the epipthet in language fails to desensitize to "soul damage" it inflicts or the conjectured imagery. That is why that one word is so painful and wrong in any public audience.
But you try explaining that to your friends and the kids and as Darryl James says, Stupid Ass Negroes...
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11-21-2006, 08:35 PM
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How he could redeem himself ... I'm drawing a blank.
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11-21-2006, 08:49 PM
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How he could redeem himself ... I'm drawing a blank.
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He can redeem himself by apologizing, and that is what he has done. I do not think this man is a racist. He is not the first person to have said something bad about another race or culture.
Seinfeld show wass a show about NOTHING. It was not show about any race of people. They would sit and talk about salsa and mustard.
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11-21-2006, 08:50 PM
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