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Old 11-06-2005, 10:00 PM
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Nominating Committee

Due to some crap that happened - I'm deleting my posts. Thank you for all of your support and feedback during the course of these events. If you'll scroll to the bottom, you'll see that I have updated with the results =) Thank you.
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Old 11-07-2005, 11:35 AM
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Just trust your NomCom. You might not alway agree with them and sometimes they will make mistakes but just let thing role and if that girl get just see what she can do. The exec council can remove her from her position if she is not doing any good for the chapter.
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Old 11-07-2005, 11:46 AM
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Old 11-07-2005, 11:53 AM
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WHAT? She's on probations and still nominated. If she's on probation (any kind make that financial, academic, or whatever) she is not allowed to hold and office. Tell NomCom to look at the By-laws. She CANNOT hold an office. Your Chapter Advisor should have know this and not allowed she to be put on the slate or even to be nominated. There is no way she can hold office.
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Old 11-07-2005, 07:29 PM
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As a member of a chapter that was recantly at 6 members and stayed active to help i understand. Hug !!!!!!!!
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Old 11-08-2005, 07:07 PM
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That's really too bad that your Nominating Committee didn't look into the fact that you work so hard for your chapter and didn't give you what you wanted.

I came from a small chapter too (15 girls) and we had to overlook the probation clause too. However, we were working on a reduced officer structure which really helped. If you aren't already doing this ask your chapter advisor or area facilitator for a copy and see if you can implement it.

PM me if you have any other questions.
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Old 11-09-2005, 12:57 PM
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Old 11-09-2005, 02:52 PM
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Amanda,
Can I just put a x2 on this part of your post?
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amanda6035 I was told yesterday that I'm too hard core about rules and structure. You know what? Rules and strcture work. They are there for a reason. And if you dont follow them, crap like this happens. And maybe I'm the only person it's bothering, but I have high standards, and we set high standards, and they should be followed. But it's so funny how many (important) things will be overlooked on the basis of not hurting somebody's feelings.
I so do this in my chapter, and get so much crap about it. The other day, the president asked if anyone had the by-laws. I said, yes, I always bring mine to meeting, and the rest of the executive committee began laughing and making fun of the fact that I care about what we are SUPPOSED to do. I completely understand where you are coming from on this...I am FVP as well, and let's just say...it's not the easiest job in the world.
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Old 12-06-2005, 03:50 AM
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Honestly, I think the way that Nom Com and Slate is handled is not right.....I'm not going to go into details but numerous times it feels that the advisor and others, etc. are only thinking of themselves instead of the chapter. If it makes you feel better girl when we had slate about half of our sorority was in tears....And they were NOT tears of joy!
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Old 12-06-2005, 02:21 PM
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Honestly, I think the way that Nom Com and Slate is handled is not right.....I'm not going to go into details but numerous times it feels that the advisor and others, etc. are only thinking of themselves instead of the chapter. If it makes you feel better girl when we had slate about half of our sorority was in tears....And they were NOT tears of joy!
Quite honestly, Aidibaby, your comment offends me! Nominating Committe and Slate serve a function that has been tried amongst this fraternity for many years, many more than you and I have been ALIVE. Yes, feelings get hurt and it is a tough process for all involved. From my collegiate experience I can say that my slate was overturned my first attempt at President. I was soooo mad at my Chapter and I cried for a long time, but in the end, the Chapter made the correct decision and I respect that. Ultimately the Nom Com does the best it can with what it has! It is sad that you do not have enough faith in your sisters that they put their best efforts forward in creating a slate for you.

May I also state that, as an advisor, our goal is NOT to think of ourselves and sway the slate in a specific direction. Advisors work with ALL officers regardless of office. Perhaps you should try to get to know your advisors and find out how much effort they put toward your Chapter instead of judging what you THINK they are doing. I'd hazard a guess that you would be surprised that they have your same goals for the Chapter. Remember advisors are sisters too and they love your Chapter as much as YOU do, if not, they wouldn't dedicate themselves to collegiates. Your Chapter succeeds with the assistance advisors give....chapters without dedicated advisors often struggle. Consider your Chapter fortunate.

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PS. Advisors CRY too! Just ask Amanda.....she'll tell you!
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Old 12-06-2005, 03:58 PM
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Trish,
I am going PM you b/c I do not want to discuss this in public. If a message board is public - Haha. Seriously, I do apologize that you were offended by my opnion and I am sorry that it upset you.
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Old 12-06-2005, 05:23 PM
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Quite alright.

I still stand my ground that you should talk to your advisors.....get to know them as sisters, as people. We are not scary women who want to take over collegiate chapters thru Nom Com.....we have jobs, families, lives and volunteer to help you out during what little free time we have. One of my closest friends was my CA and now that I'm a CA and she's an AF we're still close. She has held my hand through great times and the crap one too in college and even now.....I bet your advisor would reach out to be your friend too if you let her.

I will look for your PM.
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Old 12-06-2005, 06:37 PM
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Honestly, I think the way that Nom Com and Slate is handled is not right.....I'm not going to go into details but numerous times it feels that the advisor and others, etc. are only thinking of themselves instead of the chapter. If it makes you feel better girl when we had slate about half of our sorority was in tears....And they were NOT tears of joy!
Been there, done that. But I have learned that most of the time it turns out for the best. It may not be how you or your close friends wish it would be, but it's the life and success of the chapter that is the most important thing.

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Ultimately the Nom Com does the best it can with what it has!
This is one of the truest statements I've heard. Some many times I've listened to sister complain because "Lisa could do that job better than Jill" or "Julie can't do that job well, she's not vocal enough". Almost always the person picked for the job ends up doing a great job. Also remember that Nom Com has access to more information about the candidates that the members at large.
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Old 12-07-2005, 01:39 AM
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Been there, done that. But I have learned that most of the time it turns out for the best. It may not be how you or your close friends wish it would be, but it's the life and success of the chapter that is the most important thing.



This is one of the truest statements I've heard. Some many times I've listened to sister complain because "Lisa could do that job better than Jill" or "Julie can't do that job well, she's not vocal enough". Almost always the person picked for the job ends up doing a great job. Also remember that Nom Com has access to more information about the candidates that the members at large.
I agree but sometimes when there are members that have had a position the pervious semester and did really horrible at her job was so disorganized and had no clue what she was doing and still gets a position........ well you get the idea...... There is really a reason to complain about that member. I would really like to say my chapters NomCom knows what they were doing but every year we just seem to get more unorganized every year. To exec. it might not seem like it but when some one is planning an event and saying its this day and then the week of they say 'oh i forgot to finish planning so we're not having it' is really stupid and not showing good leadership
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