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Old 06-21-2004, 01:18 AM
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Seccisism

I know I mispelled that but I really don't care, and neither should you.

This is in responce to the thread about the crazy guy from South Carolina.

The U.S. is a Federation of Sovereign States. Do the states have a right to drop out?

Would anyone care if South Carolina left? Let's review the facts:

They tried to block the declaration of independence because of the slavery clause, which they later had removed.

And they were the first to split during the civil war.

I just wish they would stop trying to get VA to go along with them. They only wanted Richmond as capital after the war started. Jerks. I wouldn't miss them at all if they left.
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Old 06-21-2004, 10:41 AM
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I think the Civil War pretty much settled the issue on legal secession. Some states still talk about it from time to time (Hawaii), however, I don't think it'll really ever happen.

They should just do what California did. They ceded a long time ago. They just didn't tell anyone about it.
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Old 06-22-2004, 12:38 AM
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I think the Civil War pretty much settled the issue on legal secession. Some states still talk about it from time to time (Hawaii), however, I don't think it'll really ever happen.

They should just do what California did. They ceded a long time ago. They just didn't tell anyone about it.
What?

California isn't a part of the Union anymore?
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Old 06-22-2004, 12:42 AM
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What?

California isn't a part of the Union anymore?
In name only
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Old 06-22-2004, 12:33 PM
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I think the Civil War pretty much settled the issue on legal secession.
It sort of did. I was never comfortable with the concept that once you join the US, you can never leave. I think that a state should be able to leave the US the same way it came in; with permission from 2/3 (I think its that many) of the states.
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Old 06-22-2004, 06:22 PM
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OMG, no, Indivudual States cannot secede.

But, Texas is still known as A Republic.

But theoreticaly, if a State can leave the Union, and is then embargoed, how do they survive?

Well, The Federal Govt of The USA would probably give them $$$$$$ like they do to other Foriegn Countrys, more so than is given to each State!

Interesting question tho!

Ever wonder why there is a North and South Carolina?

Was it because they were the biggest land mass State, and getting to powerful and Big For their Briches!
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Old 06-22-2004, 06:23 PM
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It sort of did. I was never comfortable with the concept that once you join the US, you can never leave. I think that a state should be able to leave the US the same way it came in; with permission from 2/3 (I think its that many) of the states.
It's kind of like "The Family" isn't it?
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Old 06-22-2004, 07:27 PM
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Old 06-22-2004, 07:31 PM
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By your emoticon, I see that I have confused you.

I mean to say that California, while technically it is part of the US, when you go there, it really doesn't resemble the rest of the US.

You with me now?
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Old 06-22-2004, 07:43 PM
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Ever wonder why there is a North and South Carolina?
It was originally split into 2 colonies by King George I and stayed that way ever since.

South Carolina is the best state in the union.

I hope you stay away though; the Outer Banks of NC have already been ruined by you tourists. Stay away from our SC coasts. Ugh.
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Old 06-23-2004, 04:54 AM
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By your emoticon, I see that I have confused you.

I mean to say that California, while technically it is part of the US, when you go there, it really doesn't resemble the rest of the US.

You with me now?
Oh okay. I thought they called themselves a Republic now or something or tried to get out of tax or something.
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Old 06-23-2004, 04:55 AM
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It was originally split into 2 colonies by King George I and stayed that way ever since.

South Carolina is the best state in the union.

I hope you stay away though; the Outer Banks of NC have already been ruined by you tourists. Stay away from our SC coasts. Ugh.
We only come for your heads....hops
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Old 06-23-2004, 09:41 AM
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It was originally split into 2 colonies by King George I and stayed that way ever since.

South Carolina is the best state in the union.

I hope you stay away though; the Outer Banks of NC have already been ruined by you tourists. Stay away from our SC coasts. Ugh.
Who is the addressed to? I know answered it already (je croix) but looking back i'm not sure.
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Old 06-23-2004, 12:56 PM
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Who is the addressed to? I know answered it already (je croix) but looking back i'm not sure.
QP...FYI it's je crois. (Sorry, it's the French teacher eeking out while she is on summer vacation. )
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Old 06-23-2004, 01:08 PM
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Who is the addressed to? I know answered it already (je croix) but looking back i'm not sure.
Well, to you, but it was in jest... Come down all you want, please see the SC coast and mountains, they are beautiful.


I do feel the outer banks have been spoiled though... and I won't even mention the utter hell that is Myrtle Beach.
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