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Old 05-12-2016, 01:45 PM
sissyintexas sissyintexas is offline
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Puffed up or "embellished" resumes from PNM

I received a resume from a PNM who had asked me to write a recommendation for her. When I received it, I noticed that she had listed several activities and honors that were just not true.

For example, captain of a team of which she was never the captain. Several other leadership positions that I know she did not hold because I was involved in these activities and she did not hold these positions.

I emailed her parent (we are acquaintances - I do not have her phone number) to tell her I had some concerns about Suzy's resume. We are on several group emails together because of shared interests and I never heard back from her.

Just wondering if this has happened to anyone else and makes me wonder how common a practice this is.
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Old 05-12-2016, 02:48 PM
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We had one of these last year. One of my alum sisters was presented with a packet (she hadn't been asked if she would write a rec letter, by the way), and called me to clarify a few resume points, since the PNM and my daughter had shared a few classes senior year. There were several embellishments on the resume, and between those, the lack of grace in requesting a letter, and their interactions when Alum had been a long-term substitute teacher for one of the girl's classes, Alum and I went back and forth for a couple of weeks over whether to ignore her request, write a non-recommendation letter, or just send the packet with a reference form and let her sink or swim. She ultimately chose to write a tepid letter of introduction to enclose with the packet. The reasoning was that the girl was doing ALL of the work on this herself (no help from mom or anyone else, although we would have been happy to help had she asked), and we were probably the only alums she approached who knew that her resume wasn't as factual as it should have been.

During that last decision-making conversation, Alum said, "For some reason, I just don't think that any of this is going to matter. I don't think she's going to end up going through recruitment. I don't know why, though..." Sure enough, the girl ended up not going away to school after all, choosing at the last minute to stay in town and attend a community college.

This is the only resume I'd ever seen in decades of rec-writing that I knew to be embellished, so if it is a common practice, it is one that has slipped by me. I write dozens of letters for girls from our neighborhood high school and am very aware of the groups, leadership hierarchies, and honors they list on their resumes. I think contacting her parent regarding the resume is exactly what I would have done, although I might have used the word "questions" in place of "concerns". Either way, I hope that you are able to resolve your issues in a positive way--keep us posted on what happens!
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Old 05-12-2016, 03:50 PM
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To my knowledge I have not received any resumes with significant embellishments. However when I do have questions about an activity, honor, or indication of leadership I do not hesitate to call the PNM to gather more information. For me though, this is genuine interest so that I may write a better rec with more information.

Instead of going through the mom, perhaps call and chat directly with the PNM. You can use my reasoning above. Because you are involved in some of the same organizations you may mention your shared connection and comment on your involvement or mutual friends. How she responds will say much about her character. Does it get her attention? Does she dig a deeper hole? Does she acknowledge the errors?

It may also be a very good life lesson for her to learn that it is never appropriate to embellish on a resume, as people can and DO find out.

Depending on how nice you are feeling you can comment on the embellishments or just play super friendly (and dumb) and then choose not to write the rec.
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Old 05-12-2016, 08:20 PM
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In 30 plus years of writing recs, I've see it twice, and only because another alumna more familiar with the girls pointed it out to me.
A lie is a lie, so I pointed it out on my rec to my chapter.
She pledged elsewhere.
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Old 05-15-2016, 05:36 PM
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I think people do this because they do not think you'll actually follow up.

Or they assume that no one can actually be from (example) that teeny tiny Texas town and know that they're lying.

I'd get with the PNM and let her know that you're aware that she is lying.
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Old 05-15-2016, 08:24 PM
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We had this issue with a girl going through at Texas. At a summer meeting with our town group members going over references, the town group lead burst out laughing as one girl's resume was filled with offices she never held and in fact one organization the town group lead had chaired the year before and the girl was not even a member.
I have a feeling it happens more than we think.
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Old 05-15-2016, 08:34 PM
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I wonder if anyone has ever slithered into a sorority by false information.
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Old 05-16-2016, 01:27 AM
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I wonder if anyone has ever slithered into a sorority by false information.
I would put good money on this happening, most likely more frequently than we all think.. especially with girls from smaller cities/towns going to schools that are less competitive than an Ole Miss or Bama.. and it might be even easier if they're going to school out-of-state.
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Old 05-16-2016, 06:21 AM
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Yeah, competitive chapters and/or chapters at competitive schools really look into that stuff.
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Old 05-16-2016, 11:10 PM
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I already know what happened because it happened last year. I did not write the rec. It became a moot point after she gave the resume to another alum of my sorority who also knew that much of the resume was fabricated. She knew the family better than I and called the parents.

The parents told her the PNM was in charge of the resume and they basically trusted her to do the right thing.

My friend contacted our local Panhellenic representative and notified her of the situation. No recs from our area were sent to her school for our group.

She ended up pledging one of the top houses at a large SEC university. If I knew how to insert a frowning face, I would.
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Old 05-17-2016, 10:18 AM
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I've only encountered this once that I know of....

the "embellishment girl" was a neighbor so I pretty much knew when I saw she had put down "captain of the soccer team" and I had never seen her so much as own a ball let alone leave the house in a soccer uniform that it was a fabrication. I saw mother and daughter outside one day and went over to "clarify" things... daughter'r immediate response was "OMG mom why would you put that down I haven't played soccer since I was 10"-- uhm OOOPS not only was daughter NOT doing her own legwork but Mom was making stuff up.

Mom rationalized it by saying that daughter WAS captain of soccer team when she was 10. OKAY... I asked for a more "updated" resume. Never got one so that solved that writing problem- daughter did end up pledging a house but I will never know what resume was used.

Thankfully they moved a few months ago because lets just say it was rather "awkward" neighbor relations after the "incident"
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Old 05-17-2016, 10:54 AM
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I've only encountered this once that I know of....

the "embellishment girl" was a neighbor so I pretty much knew when I saw she had put down "captain of the soccer team" and I had never seen her so much as own a ball let alone leave the house in a soccer uniform that it was a fabrication. I saw mother and daughter outside one day and went over to "clarify" things... daughter'r immediate response was "OMG mom why would you put that down I haven't played soccer since I was 10"-- uhm OOOPS not only was daughter NOT doing her own legwork but Mom was making stuff up.

Mom rationalized it by saying that daughter WAS captain of soccer team when she was 10. OKAY... I asked for a more "updated" resume. Never got one so that solved that writing problem- daughter did end up pledging a house but I will never know what resume was used.

Thankfully they moved a few months ago because lets just say it was rather "awkward" neighbor relations after the "incident"
That's just so sad to me. I know that going thru recruitment is a stressful experience but it NEVER justifies lying in any way. That is just totall wrong and against all principles. I am glad that my daughter did not go thru formal recruitment but waited a few months into school and went thru COB- I think it was so much better for her. Now that she is a member she will get to see first hand in the fall exactly what going thru recruitment would have been like but on the other side. She is a first generation greek so she too is just learning how it all works- but I can tell you its made a wonderful difference in her life and she has met so many great girls- in fact 3 of her sisters she is sharing a house with in fall. As far as embellishing a resume I would hope that those who are writing these will take the job seriously and investigate if things just don't look and seem right.
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Old 05-17-2016, 04:12 PM
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I have seen a few recruitment resumes that listed an honor or participation in an activity that, while technically true, seemed a little more grand in the listing than I knew the activity or "honor" to be. I wouldn't have known that, however, if I didn't know the PNM and the high school.

I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of recruitment resumes (and subsequently the recs based on these resumes) are at the very least embellished, especially when the alum submitting the rec does not know the PNM well (probably a far more common practice now than in the past).

For in-state PNMs attending a school where many actives who attended their high school are sprinkled among the chapters, false info on a resume might be noticed even if the alum submitting the rec was not aware.

For OOS recs, especially those written by an alum who doesn't know the PNM well, and especially when there are few actives about who know the PNM or attended her HS, who knows?

In a large recruitment where thousands of recs are managed, those in charge of membership cannot possibly vet all the details of the recruitment resumes once received.

Resume embellishment -- even inclusion of false info -- is more common than not in the workplace, so I'm not sure I would expect the less risky (by comparison) prospect of embellishing or lying on a recruitment resume to be hugely less common.
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Old 05-17-2016, 04:40 PM
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Although if sororities are checking rushees' social media, I would think things like the soccer captain would rause a red flag if there were no mentions of the team, no liking it etc.
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Old 05-17-2016, 05:03 PM
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I have seen a few recruitment resumes that listed an honor or participation in an activity that, while technically true, seemed a little more grand in the listing than I knew the activity or "honor" to be. I wouldn't have known that, however, if I didn't know the PNM and the high school.

This has happened a few times to me also. When the mention that they are sr. reps on homecoming court, that looks good but I know that at our school all sr. girls who have participated in anyway, cheerleading, pep squad, stats, are eligible for homecoming court. So usually everyone except 1 or 2 are on court. Not such a big honor when you know that.
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