Please comment and let me know what you beleive

PsiDeltaOmega08 · #1 07-19-2009, 07:57 PM

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lucgreek · #2 07-19-2009, 08:14 PM

A quick google shows you're at Alfred State, looking on their Greek Life page it shows:

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Based on previous serious violations of the College's Code of Student Conduct and criminal law that jeopardized the safety of students, Psi Delta Omega, a men's fraternity, is not recognized by the College. Students who choose to rush, pledge, and/or join an expelled organizations can be charged disciplinary and dismissed from the College. If you have any questions regarding the Greek system, please contact the office of the Associate Vice President for Student Life at (607) 587-4371."

The college can do this. You aren't a national organization so there is not much your group can do. The college has a duty to protect students and if you're organization was kicked off for hazing or some other activity that presents a threat to student safety, they are within their right to expel members of your brotherhood.

Also based on what the university has said, violating criminal law sounds serious and not "stupid stuff."

Kevin · #3 07-19-2009, 08:26 PM

I'm not going to comment on your rights or the permissiveness of the school's activity, but I will say this. You might want to use the search function. Not only is Alfred U's situation discussed in detail in several old threads, I'm sure the answers you are looking for can be found there as well.

Zillini · #4 07-20-2009, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by lucgreek

A quick google shows you're at Alfred State, looking on their Greek Life page it shows:

"
Based on previous serious violations of the College's Code of Student Conduct and criminal law that jeopardized the safety of students, Psi Delta Omega, a men's fraternity, is not recognized by the College. Students who choose to rush, pledge, and/or join an expelled organizations can be charged disciplinary and dismissed from the College. If you have any questions regarding the Greek system, please contact the office of the Associate Vice President for Student Life at (607) 587-4371."

The college can do this. You aren't a national organization so there is not much your group can do. The college has a duty to protect students and if you're organization was kicked off for hazing or some other activity that presents a threat to student safety, they are within their right to expel members of your brotherhood.

Also based on what the university has said, violating criminal law sounds serious and not "stupid stuff."

Agreed, this sounds a tad more serious than just doing something "stupid".

You chose to join an organization that the University has plainly stated that members may be "charged disciplinary and dismissed from the College." Can't say you weren't warned ahead of time. Ya'll really don't have any grounds to complain when the University followed through.

AOII Angel · #5 07-20-2009, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by PsiDeltaOmega08

My fraternity lost its charter in 1997 because some of my alumni did something stupid... the fraternity lived on and is still living on. After i pledged in fall 08 the school year went smooth until six of our brothers were contacted by our campus police during our second semester they had a hearing. the hearing was about being kicked out of school for being in our fraternity. The school went on facebook where our sisterhood had put pictures of some of the brothers with there letters on on there pictures page. the school then kicked out five out of the six of my fraternity brothers.
My beleif is anyone has the right to join any orginization they want. we have tried to get our charter back many times and we still do things for the community although we are uncharterd. if the school wants nothing to do with our fraternity and doesnt want to give us a charter then we are considered a off campus orginization and i think it violates our first ammendment rights.
I would just like some feed back on if you think what the school did is wrong or if you agree with it.

What I "beleive" in is "i before e, except after c."

AZ-AlphaXi · #6 07-20-2009, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel

What I "beleive" in is "i before e, except after c."

except when it sounds like "a" as in neighbor and weigh

< thanks for posting what I thought as well>

AOII Angel · #7 07-20-2009, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AZ-AlphaXi

except when it sounds like "a" as in neighbor and weigh

< thanks for posting what I thought as well>

no problem...and thanks for finishing it for me...I always screw up the wording!

Deltasig89 · #8 07-20-2009, 08:50 PM

I feel you guys just need to deal with the consequences. You guys know the schools stance on the situation and the possible outcomes especially now that you and your brothers had to deal with it. I agree with you guys for trying to keep your chapter going and for holding it down so that you guys can continue the name. I feel a second chance should always be there, my chapter is thriving and one of the premeir on campus now in all aspects, and that was only possible due to the school giving us a second chance years ago.

annabella · #9 07-20-2009, 11:03 PM

I believe.... that love is the answer.

pshsx1 · #10 07-21-2009, 12:03 AM

Hug it out?

SWTXBelle · #11 07-21-2009, 08:17 AM

I believe for every drop of rain that falls, a flower grows.

moe.ron · #12 07-21-2009, 09:22 AM

They were warned, they knew of the consequences. Suck it up and accept the punishment.

emb021 · #13 07-21-2009, 01:25 PM

What I believe:

I believe in rainbows, and puppy dogs and fairy tales. And I believe in the family: Mom, and Dad, and Grandma, and Uncle Todd, who waves his penis.

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And I believe you should place a woman on a pedestal, high enough so you can look up her dress.

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And people say I'm crazy for believing this, but I believe that robots are stealing my luggage.

And I believe I made a mistake when I bought a 30-story, one-bedroom apartment.

And I believe that the "Battle of the Network Stars" should be fought with guns.

And I believe that Ronald Reagan can make this country what it once was: an arctic region, covered with ice.

And lastly, I believe that of all the evils on this earth, there is nothing worse than the music you are listening to right now.

Author: Steve Martin