Murder at Va. Tech

[DaemonSeid]

Va. Tech stabbing suspect charged with murder
2 hours ago

BLACKSBURG, Va. (AP) — A graduate student from China has been charged with murder in the fatal stabbing of a female student on Virginia Tech's campus, the first killing there since a deadly mass shooting in 2007.

An electronic alert system revamped after the massacre warned students to stay in place while police investigated the incident around 7:45 p.m. Wednesday — about half an hour after the suspect was taken into custody. They were cleared to resume normal activity about an hour later.

The woman, who was also a graduate student but was not identified, was stabbed to death at a cafe in the Graduate Life Center. Police believe she knew the man accused of attacking her, 25-year-old Haiyang Zhu, the school said in a news release. He was charged with first-degree murder and was being held without bond.

It was unclear early Thursday morning where he was being held or whether he had an attorney.

Campus police were called to the scene around 7:06 p.m., and Zhu was taken into custody minutes later, the school said. Responding officers found him and a knife they believe was used at the scene.

Students who live in the building were allowed to come and go, but others were asked to stay away from the area. The hall would re-open later Thursday morning, the school said.

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[DGTess]

Oh, my gawd. Another murder at VT. Let's close the "gun show loophole" so it doesn't happen again.

</sarcasm>

[ZTABullwinkle]

Ummm, he didn't just stab her...he decapitated her with an 8-inch kitchen knife!

Here is the link from our local paper: VT grad student knew her killer

[AKA_Monet]

I am in a foul mood so I'mma ask it:

What the HAYLO is up with VT's admissions policies accepting students who kill each other? Who are they accepting these days? Freddie, Jason, Michael? DAYUM!

[Elephant Walk]

goddamn farr-eners

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

goddamn farr-eners

That ain't right...

And it's s'pose to be spelled "gottdayum"!!! LOL...

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by DGTess

Oh, my gawd. Another murder at VT. Let's close the "gun show loophole" so it doesn't happen again.

</sarcasm>

You're an ass.

[CutiePie2000]

This story reminded me of that horrific murder and decapitation, back in July 2008. It happened on a Greyhound Bus in Manitoba, Canada :
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/...meline-li.html
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=L5lGvjXXblA

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

I am in a foul mood so I'mma ask it:

What the HAYLO is up with VT's admissions policies accepting students who kill each other? Who are they accepting these days? Freddie, Jason, Michael? DAYUM!

I would bet that this happens on a lot more campuses than VT.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

I would bet that this happens on a lot more campuses than VT.

You are right... But IDK? Cho, then Zhu? Coincidence? Maybe... Maybe not...

Some of the folks with H-1B visas have been found to have fraudulent credentials and are treated like slaves... And since they pay something way beyond "out of state" tuition and fees, many universities that greedily and willingly accept people with H-1B visas are making a killing off them, and scaring them into cheap labor.

Check out Lou Dobbs, CNN and Science Magazine about this issue, those are my sources...

[alum]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

You are right... But IDK? Cho, then Zhu? Coincidence? Maybe... Maybe not...

Some of the folks with H-1B visas have been found to have fraudulent credentials and are treated like slaves... And since they pay something way beyond "out of state" tuition and fees, many universities that greedily and willingly accept people with H-1B visas are making a killing off them, and scaring them into cheap labor.

Check out Lou Dobbs, CNN and Science Magazine about this issue, those are my sources...

Cho was not here in the US on a student visa. He was born in South Korea and moved with his family to the US while he was still in elementary school and was considered a permanent resident. He was an undergraduate student.

Zhu (born in China) was a doctoral candidate working for the university as a TA so perhaps he was one of the overworked foreign grad students. He came to the US specifically as a graduate student a couple of years ago.

I think they are both horrific murderers but I do not see any connection.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

You are right... But IDK? Cho, then Zhu? Coincidence? Maybe... Maybe not...

Some of the folks with H-1B visas have been found to have fraudulent credentials and are treated like slaves... And since they pay something way beyond "out of state" tuition and fees, many universities that greedily and willingly accept people with H-1B visas are making a killing off them, and scaring them into cheap labor.

Check out Lou Dobbs, CNN and Science Magazine about this issue, those are my sources...

I would have to say coincidence...2 heinous murders on the same campus that just so happens to be perpetrated by Asians? Just think of the odds on that one.

And back to your earlier concern, just think of what type of discriminatory practices would arise if college campuses were ever allowed to perform any type of mental evaluation of incoming students to any program.

The SATs descended from a mental test...which was concidered to be anti race and anti immigrant. No sense in giving schools more tools to illegally weed out people they don't want.

[RU OX Alum]

True

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

I would have to say coincidence...2 heinous murders on the same campus that just so happens to be perpetrated by Asians? Just think of the odds on that one.

And back to your earlier concern, just think of what type of discriminatory practices would arise if college campuses were ever allowed to perform any type of mental evaluation of incoming students to any program.

The SATs descended from a mental test...which was concidered to be anti race and anti immigrant. No sense in giving schools more tools to illegally weed out people they don't want.

There's a big debate about whether states should be allowed to ask questions about mental history when someone applies to be a member of the state bar. One of the professors at my law school wrote a widely-read article on it, and now there's a big debate as to whether the practice discriminatory, where the line should be drawn, etc.

I would imagine that an undergrad admissions process that looked at mental health records would elicit the same, if not, stronger debate.

I really think this is a coincidence - unfortunately you find acts of violence (whether resulting in murder or not) on college campuses across the country. It just happens that VT had a very public act of violence that has attracted the public microscope, so when things like this happen, people will be looking for patterns.

[PM_Mama00]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

I would bet that this happens on a lot more campuses than VT.

It does, it just is kept from the public. I was surprised to hear that there were reported rapes on my campus which is very small and commuter.

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

...And back to your earlier concern, just think of what type of discriminatory practices would arise if college campuses were ever allowed to perform any type of mental evaluation of incoming students to any program.

The SATs descended from a mental test...which was concidered to be anti race and anti immigrant. No sense in giving schools more tools to illegally weed out people they don't want.

If it were legal to discriminate based on a mental evaluation, my campus would have been half what it was. Seriously so many weird and crazy people. Then again doesn't mean that they have a mental problem, more like a creepy factor.