Internal Battles Divided McCain and Palin Camps

[Tinia2]

Seems as if, in only 48 hours, the knives have come out between the GOP.
I first heard of this on CNN which interviewed one of the writers on Newsweek's' story (which I think will be in next weeks issue).
Found it as well in New York Times.
"
PHOENIX — As a top adviser in Senator John McCain’s now-imploded campaign tells the story, it was bad enough that Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska unwittingly scheduled, and then took, a prank telephone call from a Canadian comedian posing as the president of France. Far worse, the adviser said, she failed to inform her ticketmate about her rogue diplomacy."....
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/06/us...q=palin&st=cse

Hackers and Spending Sprees

Highlights from NEWSWEEK's special election project.

Besides going into the problems between Gov. Palin and Sen. McCain, this also goes into the reports that BOTH Sen. McCains' and Sen. Obamas' campaign computers were hacked into by "foreign governments".
http://www.newsweek.com/id/167581
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/arc...gn_postmortem/

[ThetaPrincess24]

I think the so called sources should name themselves. If they are speaking the truth and arent ashamed why hide? Cowards & sore losers. Sore bickering wont help the republican party heal or rebuild/whatever.

I dont believe it. If it was true I think it was a mis-speak just like Obama misspoke when he said there were 57 states.

[Kevin]

These must be the same 'sources' which have been saying that Palin didn't know Africa was a continent (rather than a country).

[KSigkid]

There's this belief in Presidential history that you can't accurately judge a President's administration for a number of years. I forget the exact number, but I think the point is to let history play out, then take an objective look (as much as possible) about that President's policies and how they shaped the future.

I tend to think the same of Presidential campaigns. The emotions are too raw right after the election, especially on the losing side. I would take anything that comes out with a grain of salt. In a few years, people will be better able to tell the story without most of the emotional baggage.

[nittanyalum]

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/in...lin-is-so-dumb...

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

There's this belief in Presidential history that you can't accurately judge a President's administration for a number of years. I forget the exact number, but I think the point is to let history play out, then take an objective look (as much as possible) about that President's policies and how they shaped the future.

I tend to think the same of Presidential campaigns. The emotions are too raw right after the election, especially on the losing side. I would take anything that comes out with a grain of salt. In a few years, people will be better able to tell the story without most of the emotional baggage.

I think you're right on both points.

[DrPhil]

I also think these anonymous McCain aides are cowards.

They had been setting her up as a scapegoat for a month and she even apologized if she lost McCain any votes. That seems as poorly crafted as a lot of things that happened during McCain's campaign. It's ridiculous how much the McCain campaign began to bail out of this election and allow Palin to get the majority of the attention. It's like they just gave up. I believe it was all so they can say she was "going rogue" or that her perceived stupidity was unbeknownst to McCain and his aides.

I've heard Palin called "diamond in the rough" and that she just needs some grooming. If that's the case, McCain people should've known that the fancy clothes and tutoring sessions were a total waste.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I also think these anonymous McCain aides are cowards.

They had been setting her up as a scapegoat for a month and she even apologized if she lost McCain any votes. That seems as poorly crafted as a lot of things that happened during McCain's campaign. It's ridiculous how much the McCain campaign began to bail out of this election and allow Palin to get the majority of the attention. It's like they just gave up. I believe it was all so they can say she was "going rogue" or that her perceived stupidity was unbeknownst to McCain and his aides.

This all actually may be true, but I'm not sure it deserves that much derision - after all, Obama had effectively "won" months ago, and the McCain camp knew that before the last debate. In that regard, I don't blame the campaign for having other interests in mind, even if those interests were selfish or silly. The Newsweek series of articles is fascinating on that point . . .

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I've heard Palin called "diamond in the rough" and that she just needs some grooming. If that's the case, McCain people should've known that the fancy clothes and tutoring sessions were a total waste.

. . . and on this one - it turns out, the McCain camp had the EXACT reaction we did on GC (that Palin undermined her own strongest attributes through her shopping excess, when she was told to go much lower). Of course, the "three sides to every story" corollary plays strongly here, and likely the truth is in the middle, but it certainly does appear that the backbiting and infighting came as soon as Obama started to really take over, around the end of summer, and that many were trying to get what they could for themselves out of it. Very interesting stuff.

[Benzgirl]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/in...lin-is-so-dumb...

"Sarah Palin thinks the alphabet has 22 letters. "

[Tinia2]

Links to all seven chapters on Newsweeks story listed here:
http://www.newsweek.com/
Highlights: Hackers and Spending Sprees


Ch. 1: Barack Obama: How He Did It


Ch. 2: John McCain: Back From the Dead?


Ch. 3: The Long Clinton-Obama Siege


Ch. 4: McCain Camp Retools, Targets Obama


Ch. 5: Obama Sweats the Clintons, McCain Gambles on Palin


Ch. 6: Battling it Out in the Great Debates


Ch. 7: The Final Days

[UGAalum94]

I really wish there were some sort of objective and reliable recording of what happened some of the stuff reported about Palin. It's certainly possible that I've just been giving Palin way too much credit, but some of the accusations this week are really mind boggling. I'd love to know if they really happened and if so, what context they occurred in.

Did she really not know the countries in North American or did she wonder if somehow other countries were included in NAFTA? (It would be goofy still, but sometimes the names we give to organizations that seem geographic aren't really limited that way and maybe she was afraid she missed coverage of other countries in the Americas joining the agreement. I don't know. If she lives in Alaska, how could she not know Canada was involved and how could anyone not know Mexico was involved? It's actually mind boggling.) Did she misspeak about Africa or really not know it was a continent? It's one thing to be kind of dumb, but it would seem really almost impossible that one could be a college graduate and be that bad off.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

I really wish there were some sort of objective and reliable recording of what happened some of the stuff reported about Palin. It's certainly possible that I've just been giving Palin way too much credit, but some of the accusations this week are really mind boggling.

No kidding...heh

[Scandia]

I hope this is not the case. We need to be united in order to accomplish our goals.

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

It's one thing to be kind of dumb, but it would seem really almost impossible that one could be a college graduate and be that bad off.

That's one of the main reasons I'm calling shenanigans on this one.

Originally Posted by KSigkid

There's this belief in Presidential history that you can't accurately judge a President's administration for a number of years. I forget the exact number, but I think the point is to let history play out, then take an objective look (as much as possible) about that President's policies and how they shaped the future.

I tend to think the same of Presidential campaigns. The emotions are too raw right after the election, especially on the losing side. I would take anything that comes out with a grain of salt. In a few years, people will be better able to tell the story without most of the emotional baggage.

So very true. I've seen campaign people going at each other's throats months or years after a failed campaign. It's not very adult behavior. I keep going back to "Never get emotionally involved in an election you can't afford to lose."

Let me add my congratulations to those who worked for Barack Obama's win. And may both camps realize how seriously we need to unite this country.

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

t's one thing to be kind of dumb, but it would seem really almost impossible that one could be a college graduate and be that bad off.

Dan Quayle?