Second Hand Smoke No Threat.

Tom Earp · #1 01-13-2008, 02:07 PM

http://www.mega.nu/ampp/drugwar/j106.pdf

Please check out this web site for more information.

DSTCHAOS · #2 01-13-2008, 02:15 PM

Conclusions: The results do not support a causal
relation between environmental tobacco smoke and
tobacco related mortality, although they do not rule
out a small effect. The association between exposure
to environmental tobacco smoke and coronary heart
disease and lung cancer may be considerably weaker
than generally believed.

Translation: There is some effect that may be (studies will differ in results based on sample, methods, etc. and that's why we have tons of studies on a continual basis) weaker than previously concluded. But only fools will assume there's a substantive difference between stronger and weaker. Those are subjective categories in practice, even when numbers are reported.

Drolefille · #3 01-13-2008, 02:32 PM

No no, clearly this is the end all be all of the discussion. No other studies matter, only this one, no matter whether it has been duplicated or not!

kddani · #4 01-13-2008, 02:41 PM

Oh yeah. Real credible, funded by the tobacco industry.

texas*princess · #5 01-13-2008, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kddani

Oh yeah. Real credible, funded by the tobacco industry.

uh huh....

another fine point made by Earp...

Benzgirl · #6 01-13-2008, 04:03 PM

Doesn't Earpus own a Smoke Shop?
This article is crap. People don't need to justify their reasons to smoke.

DSTCHAOS · #7 01-13-2008, 05:54 PM

I hate all of you.

DeltAlum · #8 01-13-2008, 06:07 PM

I, for one, am having more and more trouble believing any of these studies anymore. I think you can twist results to say whatever you want them to.

I don't smoke, never have, but I think I'll go have a nice greasy cheeseburger and some fries.

RACooper · #9 01-13-2008, 08:51 PM

I for one will take the crazy approach of giving more weight and hence credence to the volumes upon volumes of studies showing the health risks of 'second hand smoke' published over the last five decades than some study put forth by a Philip Morris stooge - I prefer my health studies not unbiased, or at least to pretend to have that pretext unlike the drivel you cite here Tom.

DSTCHAOS · #10 01-14-2008, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DeltAlum

but I think I'll go have a nice greasy cheeseburger and some fries.

You won't find a study that says that tasty meal isn't okay in moderation.

Tom Earp · #11 01-14-2008, 03:24 PM

Yes, I own a smoke shop and was only giving some information for reading.

Each and everyone else can make up their minds and do not need to get nasty about it!

Each can say what they want and that is fine.

kddani · #12 01-14-2008, 03:37 PM

What's the next study we're going to see posted- booze is good for the liver? Study performed by Dr. C. Morgan, Dr. J. Walker, Dr. J. Daniels and Dr. J. Beam?

DSTCHAOS · #13 01-14-2008, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

Yes, I own a smoke shop and was only giving some information for reading.

Each and everyone else can make up their minds and do not need to get nasty about it!

Each can say what they want and that is fine.

We're being entertained like always. Don't act brand new, Tom.

Your post was just interesting.

"No threat...read here for why..."

ree-Xi · #14 01-14-2008, 04:54 PM

Has anyone here ever walked through the wall of smoke in front of a building (hospitals are huge offenders), only to cough and choke and their eyes begin to burn?

I always wondered where that cloud came from. Was it foggy out? Was there a garbage can on fire? Well hell if I knew. I just knew it made me sick. Wait - there are a bunch of people hudled over near the front door - smoking!

If 3-5 seconds of second hand smoke so graciously deposited into the general outdoor breathing air is enough to make someone cough and sputter, how much of an intellectual jump does it take to imagine that years of living (being trapped) with a smoker (let's say 2 self centered parents or even a spouse) will have a negative effect on those who are subject to the closed interiors of homes and vehicles?

Why do smokers habitually keep their windows shut? I swear there was a half inch of tobacco dust on everything in my house and our car when I was a kid.

As a person with a genetic, progressive, terminal lung disease, it irks me to no end that people with normal healthy lungs choose to do the equivalent of sucking on the end of a 67 dodge's tailpipe. Just DON'T DO IT IN FRONT OF PEOPLE WHO DO NOT WANT TO BE EXPOSED TO YOUR POISON.

Studies, theories, don't show them to me. I have seen enough throat, esophageal and lung cancer, heart disease, and strokes in people who were chain smokers. I am not a scientist, nor do I understand statistics much, but you have to be an idiot to think that there would be NO NEGATIVE EFFECTS on someone who has been forced ( or choose) to breathe in your cancer sticks.

Go ahead and smoke. Just not in front of me.

---someone HAD to bring up the one thing that gets me going---

DeltAlum · #15 01-14-2008, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

You won't find a study that says that tasty meal isn't okay in moderation.

I'm a Moderator, so I guess I'll have them three times a day...

Just kidding.

On the other hand, my grandmother fried almost eveything and my grandfather lived to age 98.

Obviously I'm not even hinting that anyone should go out and eat a lot of greasy food and smoke, but I think every body is different and reacts differently to diet and other lifestyle issues.