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06-09-2007, 11:33 PM
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LXA local's
So I was talking to Brother Trey online, and it donned on me that our chapter was once a local and at one point it had a badge, COA, and most likely a ritual. I never really thought about it until this evening as to where all of this stuff could possibly be. Back in 1921 our founder, Russell R Fling, founded a local, Pi Sigma Alpha. In 1923 merged with Lambda Chi to form the Gamma Tau chapter. As far as I know, and anyone else I have ever spoken to, has never even heard of Pi Sigma Alpha except in name, as sad as that is.
I know Tom has spoken to me on several occasions about how he as donated his stuff to nationals, and it is sitting somewhere gathering dust in their basement.
My question is 2 parts.
1. For those guys who troll the the dungeon of our HQ, have you all ever come across anything from Ohio State, and the Pi Sigma Alpha local chapter?
2. What happens to all of the other local swag from chapters that have incorporated with LCA long ago? Does it all stay in the house locked up? Does some of it go to nationals? Does it get burned in some allegiance ceremony to LCA????
Very curious as to what the hell happened to our past, and why none of is in my hands this very second.
ZAX,
John
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06-10-2007, 06:34 AM
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#1 I have no clue
#2a I suspect that the stuff would be held by the new chapter of LXA and would be appropriately displayed in the library or someplace of similar significance at the local chapter. I know at Cal we had a plaque from our local (The Skulls) that was mounted above our fireplace until it was stolen in the late eighties.
#2b I know of no ritualistic bonfire ceremony
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06-10-2007, 07:06 AM
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#1 I have no clue
#2a I suspect that the stuff would be held by the new chapter of LXA and would be appropriately displayed in the library or someplace of similar significance at the local chapter. I know at Cal we had a plaque from our local (The Skulls) that was mounted above our fireplace until it was stolen in the late eighties.
#2b I know of no ritualistic bonfire ceremony
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*Note: start having more large fires at the house*
I was telling Trey last night, this may be one of those adventures that is dead before I start... Not that I am not going to add it to my list of things to dig around for, but finding an 80 year old pin that to anyone who is alive is non-existent, might be a bit tough.
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06-10-2007, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by john1082;1464186#2a
I suspect that the stuff would be held by the new chapter of LXA and would be appropriately displayed in the library or someplace of similar significance at the local chapter. I know at Cal we had a plaque from our local (The Skulls) that was mounted above our fireplace until it was stolen in the late eighties.
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Here at Lambda Epsilon, we were founded as a local by the name of "The Gilgal" in 1928. We still have some badges on display in our Chapter Room and we also have the original flag on display. Gilgal still means a lot to our chapter because for the better half of our existance as a chapter, we were Gilgal. We have the ritual preserved as well.
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06-10-2007, 08:51 AM
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Dever,
The badge and pledge pin of Pi Sigma Alpha are on display at IHQ, having been donated by Melvin Robert Bergman, Gamma-Tau 16. He was the third High Alpha (Russell Rader Fling, G-T 1, was the first). Both were class of 1923.
Bergman was instrumental in the purchase of the brick house on 15th Avenue, just half a block from the main university entrance.
Hope this helps.
In ZAX,
Jono
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06-10-2007, 09:05 AM
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Dever,
The badge and pledge pin of Pi Sigma Alpha are on display at IHQ, having been donated by Melvin Robert Bergman, Gamma-Tau 16. He was the third High Alpha (Russell Rader Fling, G-T 1, was the first). Both were class of 1923.
Bergman was instrumental in the purchase of the brick house on 15th Avenue, just half a block from the main university entrance.
Hope this helps.
In ZAX,
Jono
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Jono my friend, if you are pulling encyclopedic knowledge out of your head I am scared and impressed.
I really had no idea that we had a badge on display at HQ. Makes me wonder what else is laying around there. As I have been saying for quite a while now, our chapter's local history is seriously lacking. Whether it be poor planning, or just the test of time, I know absolutely nothing about what we did here before the 60's. I have dug through just about every single document we have here at the house, but I wish we had more tangible items aside from pieces of paper containing chapter minutes.
I am thinking about making a trip to HQ this summer, my grandmother lives about 30 mins away and I need to go see her. Any of you regulars interested in showing a young guy around?
Thanks again,
John
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06-10-2007, 11:09 AM
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John,
It's great you are interested in the history of your chapter. Thanks for the compliment, but I just have some reference materials here in New York.
I'm sure if you contacted someone at headquarters, they'd be happy to show you around if you made a visit. I was there once and had a nice time.
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06-10-2007, 01:34 PM
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Brother Jono is correct as if it is "the one" time, I was with him.  While we were dissapointed at the moment, it is still a neat place to visit! I feel lucky that I have been able to see our IHQ!
It is awesome but much smaller than it looks and is a working IHQ!
Let them know you are coming and you will be well received as they are great people working there!
PS, I do have a Local Pin from Auburn Un.
I think I may know where it may go!
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06-10-2007, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by dever860
I am thinking about making a trip to HQ this summer, my grandmother lives about 30 mins away and I need to go see her. Any of you regulars interested in showing a young guy around?
Thanks again,
John
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They've got their hands full right now trying to get ready for Leadership Seminar. How about holding off on that until August? I may even be back there mid-August for something entirely different and a stop in Indy would be easy indeed.
John G sends from Capetown
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06-10-2007, 09:01 PM
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They've got their hands full right now trying to get ready for Leadership Seminar. How about holding off on that until August? I may even be back there mid-August for something entirely different and a stop in Indy would be easy indeed.
John G sends from Capetown
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Give me a date and I will be there. I wasn't planning on making a trip till after LC.
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06-10-2007, 11:08 PM
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I've never had a desire to visit HQ, probably because it is in the middle of Indiana. I mean, Indiana, come on guys! A ticket to Cancun or a ticket to Indiana, hmmmmmm... When they move to Florida, count me in!
I was just curious as to what you do when you visit HQ? As someone said, it is a working HQ. Do they give you a quick tour? Do you just go around and visit people? Do you have access to the archives?
Is it more like visiting an office, or more like a museum?
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06-10-2007, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by GammaZeta
I've never had a desire to visit HQ, probably because it is in the middle of Indiana. I mean, Indiana, come on guys! A ticket to Cancun or a ticket to Indiana, hmmmmmm... When they move to Florida, count me in!
I was just curious as to what you do when you visit HQ? As someone said, it is a working HQ. Do they give you a quick tour? Do you just go around and visit people? Do you have access to the archives?
Is it more like visiting an office, or more like a museum?
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From what I understand, Both.
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06-12-2007, 11:13 AM
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I work at HQ for the summer as an intern for Executive Vice President Bill Farkas. When brothers come we always give them tours. A staff member usually gives them but now that summer is going and the ELC's are training, they have been having us interns give the tour. We welcome anyone to come and we will give you the entire tour. It is a mix of a museum and a office but everyone is welcome!
If you are interested in coming, just let me know at:
mknickman@lambdachi.org
In ZAX,
Matt Knickman
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06-12-2007, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by DeltaPhizeta332
I work at HQ for the summer as an intern for Executive Vice President Bill Farkas. When brothers come we always give them tours. A staff member usually gives them but now that summer is going and the ELC's are training, they have been having us interns give the tour. We welcome anyone to come and we will give you the entire tour. It is a mix of a museum and a office but everyone is welcome!
If you are interested in coming, just let me know at:
mknickman@lambdachi.org
In ZAX,
Matt Knickman
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Thanks for the info. Ill keep that in mind whenever I decide to get out there.
In ZAX,
John Dever
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06-12-2007, 02:10 PM
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While it is not as large as we would assume, there are many treasures and history within the walls.
While I am sure we all wish there was more room to display the treasures, as I and others would, it is still impressive!
You will also see many of the GLO HQs along the same street and areas.
GammaZeta, I guess you have to put your prioritys where they best fit you!
Mine would be in Central Indiana!
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