Is Joe Lieberman really a Democrat?

[GAC3710]

What are you thoughts and why?



I think he should still be a Democrat. People say his war stance alienates him from his party but I cannot see for the life of me why people cannot understand his stance. The man is Jewish. Israel is right next to Iraq. Any nation that does not define itself as an islamic state and who goes to war in the mid-east Joe Lieberman will support whether it be England, France, Italy, Germany, whoever. Conquering any arab nation helps ensure Israel's chance for survival (not that they need it being as they're the most powerful nation in the mid-east) and it's a given any jew anywhere in the world would be for a war against islamic states. Can anyone tell me why members of our party have a hard time seeing the reason for his stance on the war?

[KSigkid]

If you look at Lieberman's voting record overall, he votes strongly with Democrats. I can't see how you can say he's NOT a democrat, to tell you the truth. The American Conservative Union gives him an extremely low rating, and Americans for Democratic Action gives him a high rating.

The problem, image-wise, is that he falls in with the Scoop Jackson wing of Democrats, which tends to be more in favor of intervention in global disputes. It's a hot button issue that causes some Democrats, and some who don't know much about politics, to brand him as a fake Dem, or a Republican in Democrat's clothing.

Maybe it's because I'm from CT and moving back there in the fall, but this whole election is really interesting. If someone like Ned Lamont, with little political experience and a weak platform, can oust a longtime senator like Lieberman (who has done a great deal for CT), I don't know if it says a whole lot about CT democrats.

[Rudey]

Originally Posted by GAC3710

it's a given any jew anywhere in the world would be for a war against islamic states.

HAHA I've heard that if it involves money or gold, they'll also be supporting a war. hahahaha

-Rudey

[GAC3710]

I can't say anything about the money or gold thing because I have never heard of someone saying that. However, I do know many Jews and none of them have neither neutral or warm feelings for Arabs. And absolutly none of them think the Palestinians should have their own state.

[_Opi_]

Originally Posted by GAC3710

What are you thoughts and why?
d it's a given any jew anywhere in the world would be for a war against islamic states.

wow. speechless.

[shinerbock]

I don't agree with Lieberman much, but I think he is an person of character. Simply because he doesn't believe we should cut and run in Iraq, does not warrant the attacks he is coming under. Keep in mind that many of those who are currently against him supported the war in the first place. I've heard some of the anti-Lieberman ads, and some of them claim he's not a "real CT democrat." That seems like a compliment to me.

[Rudey]

Originally Posted by GAC3710

I can't say anything about the money or gold thing because I have never heard of someone saying that. However, I do know many Jews and none of them have neither neutral or warm feelings for Arabs. And absolutly none of them think the Palestinians should have their own state.

Jews love money. All they want is to fight against Muslims and get rich. Haven't you read the Protocols of Zion?

It's really bizarre though that so much money is flowing from Jews to make sure Lieberman doesn't win the re-election though. That I don't get.

-Rudey

[GAC3710]

It is bizarre. I cannot think of one politician in congress besides Lieberman that is Jewish. Can you? Aside from Hollywood and the nation's banking system, you would think shaping the political landscape would be next on the agenda.

[tunatartare]

We're still working on Hollywood. Too many Christmas movies and very few Hannukah ones. We're getting to Congress though. Chuck Schumer (D, NY) is Jewish.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by KLPDaisy

We're still working on Hollywood. Too many Christmas movies and very few Hannukah ones. We're getting to Congress though. Chuck Schumer (D, NY) is Jewish.

Yeah with movies like this: The Hebrew Hammer

Plot summary:An orthodox Jewish blaxploitation hero saves Hanukkah from the clutches of Santa Claus's evil son

Tagline: Part Man. Part Street. 100% Kosher.

[tunatartare]

And let's not forget Adam Sandler's 8 Crazy Nights.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by KLPDaisy

And let's not forget Adam Sandler's 8 Crazy Nights.

The Hanukkah Song

Intro: This is a song, that uh, theres alot of Xmas songs out there,
but not too many about Hanukkah,
so I wrote a song for all those nice little Jewish kids
who dont get to hear any Hanukkah songs--here we go...

Put on your yalmulka, here comes Hanukkah
Its so much fun-akkah to celebrate Hanukkah,
Hanukkah is the Festival of Lights,
Instead of one day of presents, we have eight crazy nights.
When you feel like the only kid in town without a Xmas tree,
Heres a list of people who are Jewish, just like you and me:

David Lee Roth lights the menorah,
So do James Caan, Kirk Douglas, and the late Dinah Shore-ah
Guess who eats together at the Karnickey Deli,
Bowzer from Sha-na-na, and Arthur Fonzerrelli.
Paul Newmans half Jewish; Goldie Hawns half too,
Put them together what a fine lookin Jew!
You dont need Deck the Halls or Jingle Bell Rock
Cause you can spin the dreidl
with Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock-both Jewish!

Put on your yalmulka, its time for Hanukkah,
The owner of the Seattle Supersonic-ahs celebrates Hanukkah.
O.J. Simpson-- not a Jew!
But guess who is...Hall of Famer--Rod Carew--(he converted!)
We got Ann Landers and her sister Dear Abby,
Harrison Fords a quarter Jewish not too shabby!
Some people think that Ebeneezer Scrooge is, Well, hes not,
but guess who is: All three stooges.
So many Jews are in show biz-- Tom Cruise isn't, but I heard his agent is.
Tell your friend Veronica, its time you celebrate Hanukkah
I hope I get a harmonica, on this lovely, lovely Hanukkah.
So drink your gin-and-tonic-ah, and smoke your marajuanic-ah,
If you really, really wanna-kah,
Have a happy, happy, happy, happy Hanukkah.

Lyrics: Adam Sandler

[tunatartare]

There were also 2 more remakes of that song and a movie by the same name.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

If you look at Lieberman's voting record overall, he votes strongly with Democrats. I can't see how you can say he's NOT a democrat, to tell you the truth. The American Conservative Union gives him an extremely low rating, and Americans for Democratic Action gives him a high rating.

The problem, image-wise, is that he falls in with the Scoop Jackson wing of Democrats, which tends to be more in favor of intervention in global disputes. It's a hot button issue that causes some Democrats, and some who don't know much about politics, to brand him as a fake Dem, or a Republican in Democrat's clothing.

Maybe it's because I'm from CT and moving back there in the fall, but this whole election is really interesting. If someone like Ned Lamont, with little political experience and a weak platform, can oust a longtime senator like Lieberman (who has done a great deal for CT), I don't know if it says a whole lot about CT democrats.

I respect him because I think he votes his beliefs and not party line. Which is what I want out of my representation. Of course, he isn't my senator.

But I like Barack Obama even better

[shinerbock]

Intoducing, my baby's daddy, Barack Obama!