Teen held captive more than 3 years

[DrPhil]

Teen escapes after being held captive in Illinois for more than 3 years

A 25 year old man and his mother held her captive. She was raped repeatedly and has a 2 year old child by her captor. Thank God she was rescued sooner rather than later. This is reminiscent of Jaycee Lee Duggard.**

**I admit that when I first saw this on the news last night, I thought this was people trying to fake it and gain notoriety like Duggard. Assuming everything in this story is accurate and this incident occurred as it has been reported, I hope that jackass and his jackass mother are held to the fullest extent of the law.

[ForeverRoses]

Don't forget Elisabeth Frizl in Austria that was held captive in the basement for 24 years and had a bunch of kids with her father.

There are some sick people in this world.

[AlphaFrog]

I feel like SOMETIME during her labor & delivery she would have had a chance to say something to someone about being captive. Would he really have been there 24/7 for two straight days?

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by ForeverRoses

Don't forget Elisabeth Frizl in Austria that was held captive in the basement for 24 years and had a bunch of kids with her father.

There are some sick people in this world.

Oh yeah, Elisabeth Fritzl. And by her own family.

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

I feel like SOMETIME during her labor & delivery she would have had a chance to say something to someone about being captive. Would he really have been there 24/7 for two straight days?

Good question.

Many people who are held captive give birth in the house. I guess giving birth in a hospital is no more a sign of escape than any other time some of these people are out of the house. The idea of being mentally, emotionally, and physically captive is that the person tries to escape a few times and, if ever semi-successful, the person is brought back by force. Then when the person is away from the house, including in a hospital, the person is so mentally captive that the person fears another attempt.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

I feel like SOMETIME during her labor & delivery she would have had a chance to say something to someone about being captive. Would he really have been there 24/7 for two straight days?

I imagine it was an especially vulnerable time for her and she didn't want to risk injury, not to mention the fact that had to have been scared.

[DrPhil]

I am terrified just reading it. I cannot even imagine.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Many people who are held captive give birth in the house. I guess giving birth in a hospital is no more a sign of escape than any other time some of these people are out of the house. The idea of being mentally, emotionally, and physically captive is that the person tries to escape a few times and, if ever semi-successful, the person is brought back by force. Then when the person is away from the house, including in a hospital, the person is so mentally captive that the person fears another attempt.

Who knows what he said to her. He very well could have told her he would kill anyone she spoke to.

[ForeverRoses]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

Who knows what he said to her. He very well could have told her he would kill anyone she spoke to.

Also the life of the baby. So scary.

[princessamy]

After reading this article over 3 times something has to be up. She met her kidnapper through friends socially and apparently they had a relationship. Plus how did her relatives know where she was to "help" her escape. I'm just saying, if my mama knew I was held hostage somewhere, she would have called everybody to come get me. I just don't we are getting the whole story.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by princessamy

After reading this article over 3 times something has to be up. She met her kidnapper through friends socially and apparently they had a relationship. Plus how did her relatives know where she was to "help" her escape. I'm just saying, if my mama knew I was held hostage somewhere, she would have called everybody to come get me. I just don't we are getting the whole story.

It sounds a bit staged, eh? We shall see.

Jaycee Duggard is on 20/20 right now.

[KDCat]

From reading the St. Louis papers, I'm thinking this is akin to a very severe of domestic violence, more than a stranger kidnapping/sex slave. He kidnapped her and then hunted her down and brought her back at gunpoint when she tried to run away. He beat her and raped her regularly. There's a certain amount of hopelessness and learned helplessness that get ingrained in the victim in this type of situation.

[shirley1929]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

I feel like SOMETIME during her labor & delivery she would have had a chance to say something to someone about being captive. Would he really have been there 24/7 for two straight days?

I'm sure you don't mean it...but you sound like you're blaming the victim here and that angers and saddens me.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by shirley1929

I'm sure you don't mean it...but you sound like you're blaming the victim here and that angers and saddens me.

I see what you mean but I think AlphaFrog is really just trying to understand the psychology and details behind it all.

This was also discussed on the 20/20 Jaycee Lee Duggard show last night. It discussed how she was sometimes in public and did not flee. It also discussed how they were once or twice in the house when patrol officers did their visits and Jaycee talked to patrol officers. Throughout the whole ordeal Jaycee and her daughters were 30 feet from where the patrol officers checked monthly and the patrol officers never checked in the backyard.

[shirley1929]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I see what you mean but I think AlphaFrog is really just trying to understand the psychology and details behind it all.

This was also discussed on the 20/20 Jaycee Lee Duggard show last night. It discussed how she was sometimes in public and did not flee. It also discussed how they were once or twice in the house when patrol officers did their visits and Jaycee talked to patrol officers. Throughout the whole ordeal Jaycee and her daughters were 30 feet from where the patrol officers checked monthly and the patrol officers never checked in the backyard.

Right. There are several instances throughout history of kidnappings and how the victim was this><close to someone of authority and didn't act...of course out of fear, I presume. I know AlphaFrog probably didn't meant it, but I wanted to make it very clear that even if she were sitting in a room full of police officers and did nothing...this WAS NOT HER FAULT.

[DrPhil]

I agree and I do not think AlphaFrog was implying that this was her fault.

However, there are people who would not only imply but explicitly state that they believe it is the victim's fault for not ending the kidnapping sooner.