All White People Are RACIST!

[PiKA2001]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/molly-..._b_458434.html
DISCLAIMER- I normally can't stomach the Huff Post but I do end up on the site about once a month out of morbid curiosity.

Hmmmm, didn't know John Mayer spoke for all white people. The author looks white herself.


"Mayer is exhibit 'A' when illustrating that racism resides within all white people. No exception. Sorry. Whether you are a hip, young liberal white guy who has played music with famous black musicians or a guy working at a factory in a rural Kentucky.

One cannot be raised in these United States with the history of racial oppression and hatred and not be racist."

[MysticCat]

Everyone's a Little Bit Racist.

Sorry.

[SWTXBelle]

Beat me to it, MC!

[starang21]

LOL.

yea, assuming one person speaks for the entire race is pretty stupid.

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by starang21

LOL.

yea, assuming one person speaks for the entire race is pretty stupid.

Well I mean it seems like people certainly think that about Black people. Apparently Al Sharpton speaks for all of US. Soooo now White people are just getting a taste of how it feels to have people think one person speaks for the whole race. It really is nothing new. But I think most people know that John Mayer is speaking for John Mayer.

[Preston327]

For awhile I honestly thought HuffPost was a left-leaning version of The Onion. Apparently not.

[starang21]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

Well I mean it seems like people certainly think that about Black people. Apparently Al Sharpton speaks for all of US. Soooo now White people are just getting a taste of how it feels to have people think one person speaks for the whole race. It really is nothing new. But I think most people know that John Mayer is speaking for John Mayer.

and both are just as ignorant and misinformed. being stupid twice doesn't make you smart. and if you read the comments on that blog, i'm not that many people think john mayer is speaking just for john mayer. but then again, all those blog posters may just be speaking for themselves.

:shock:

[DrPhil]

All of you are too smart to get stuck on who speaks for whom. We already know that no race has a spokesperson.

The real point is in what Mayer was HORRIBLY attempting to convey, which is what many social scientists (99% are white) have been saying based on an analysis of the structure of race and power (which is what racism is--it isn't the same thing as prejudice and it doesn't require being prejudiced or bigoted--I don't give a darn whether you disagree with this so spare me). These social scientists have theorized that whites in societies where whites are the power majority are racist through social learning and group positioning. In societies where other groups are the power majority (which doesn't automatically happen just because a group is the population majority), these groups can ALSO be racist unintentionally, inadvertently, covertly, overtly, without biased intent, etc.

Tim Wise is a mainstream white person who has made such claims for years. He and other less mainstream people have used examples of racism (and sexism) such as how they often assume that they are the lead speaker or the leader of a group of intellects just because they are the white male. They sometimes have to catch themselves in action to challenge themselves to do better. That's classic status group hierarchy right there. It is still an example of racism despite the fact that there isn't the overtly discriminatory or bigoted outcome that the media (and uninformed people, in general) has told us to expect from "racism."

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

All of you are too smart to get stuck on who speaks for whom. We already know that no race has a spokesperson.

The real point is in what Mayer was HORRIBLY attempting to convey, which is what many social scientists (99% are white) have been saying based on an analysis of the structure of race and power (which is what racism is--it isn't the same thing as prejudice and it doesn't require being prejudiced or bigoted--I don't give a darn whether you disagree with this so spare me). These social scientists have theorized that whites in societies where whites are the power majority are racist through social learning and group positioning. In societies where other groups are the power majority (which doesn't automatically happen just because a group is the population majority), these groups can ALSO be racist unintentionally, inadvertently, covertly, overtly, without biased intent, etc.

Tim Wise is a mainstream white person who has made such claims for years. He and other less mainstream people have used examples of racism (and sexism) such as how they often assume that they are the lead speaker or the leader of a group of intellects just because they are the white male. They sometimes have to catch themselves in action to challenge themselves to do better. That's classic status group hierarchy right there. It is still an example of racism despite the fact that there isn't the overtly discriminatory or bigoted outcome that the media (and uninformed people, in general) has told us to expect from "racism."

I pretty much skipped everything else (including clicking the link) to read what you would say about it, so I could just agree and move on:

I agree.

Bye.

[Phrozen1ne]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

All of you are too smart to get stuck on who speaks for whom. We already know that no race has a spokesperson.

The real point is in what Mayer was HORRIBLY attempting to convey, which is what many social scientists (99% are white) have been saying based on an analysis of the structure of race and power (which is what racism is--it isn't the same thing as prejudice and it doesn't require being prejudiced or bigoted--I don't give a darn whether you disagree with this so spare me). These social scientists have theorized that whites in societies where whites are the power majority are racist through social learning and group positioning. In societies where other groups are the power majority (which doesn't automatically happen just because a group is the population majority), these groups can ALSO be racist unintentionally, inadvertently, covertly, overtly, without biased intent, etc.

Tim Wise is a mainstream white person who has made such claims for years. He and other less mainstream people have used examples of racism (and sexism) such as how they often assume that they are the lead speaker or the leader of a group of intellects just because they are the white male. They sometimes have to catch themselves in action to challenge themselves to do better. That's classic status group hierarchy right there. It is still an example of racism despite the fact that there isn't the overtly discriminatory or bigoted outcome that the media (and uninformed people, in general) has told us to expect from "racism."

I agree with this as well. I strongly agree with what is in bold face.

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

All of you are too smart to get stuck on who speaks for whom. We already know that no race has a spokesperson.

The real point is in what Mayer was HORRIBLY attempting to convey, which is what many social scientists (99% are white) have been saying based on an analysis of the structure of race and power (which is what racism is--it isn't the same thing as prejudice and it doesn't require being prejudiced or bigoted--I don't give a darn whether you disagree with this so spare me). These social scientists have theorized that whites in societies where whites are the power majority are racist through social learning and group positioning. In societies where other groups are the power majority (which doesn't automatically happen just because a group is the population majority), these groups can ALSO be racist unintentionally, inadvertently, covertly, overtly, without biased intent, etc.

Tim Wise is a mainstream white person who has made such claims for years. He and other less mainstream people have used examples of racism (and sexism) such as how they often assume that they are the lead speaker or the leader of a group of intellects just because they are the white male. They sometimes have to catch themselves in action to challenge themselves to do better. That's classic status group hierarchy right there. It is still an example of racism despite the fact that there isn't the overtly discriminatory or bigoted outcome that the media (and uninformed people, in general) has told us to expect from "racism."

Beautiful.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

These social scientists have theorized that whites in societies where whites are the power majority are racist through social learning and group positioning. In societies where other groups are the power majority (which doesn't automatically happen just because a group is the population majority), these groups can ALSO be racist unintentionally, inadvertently, covertly, overtly, without biased intent, etc.

Are these scientists saying that while white dominated societies ARE ALWAYS racist by nature, societies dominated by non-whites CAN ALSO ( as in maybe, sometimes, once in a blue moon) be racist? I just find it hard to believe it's a world wide trait of all Anglo societies to be racist. I'm not sure if I completely agree with that hypothesis based on what I've seen in my travels( don't feel like getting into it right now). Granted my experience in the matter is limited to people from Latin America and the middle east, but it's been my observation that people see there own race, in general, more favorably than other races.

[DrPhil]

Always turn your brain on before typing to me.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

Well I mean it seems like people certainly think that about Black people. Apparently Al Sharpton speaks for all of US. Soooo now White people are just getting a taste of how it feels to have people think one person speaks for the whole race. It really is nothing new. But I think most people know that John Mayer is speaking for John Mayer.

I wouldn't compare John Mayer with Sharpton, who is a civil rights advocate who routinely brings up issues that affect and concern the Black community to the publics attention. Mayer is just a douche who is out of touch with reality.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by starang21

LOL.

yea, assuming one person speaks for the entire race is pretty stupid.

Al and Jesse do it all the time...