Rhomom, I'm confused by this entire exchange (parts have been redacted to highlight the point I'm driving at):
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To moms whose hearts are breaking because this has been so difficult; I know how frustrated and angry you are--I lived it. But also know that there is not one current active who finds this anything but agonizing. They, like the PNM's have not eaten, have not slept and are absolutely disgusted by the process.
To the poster that said that taking more members makes it less special? That chapters should be exclusive? You are dead wrong--most of these ladies would do anything to be able to make this system more inclusive. Comments such as this serve to only perpetuate the perception of "mean girls". There may indeed be some of those as well, but they do not represent the majority of women in houses.
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Lastly, IU admissions has no control over the current system, nor does the administration, the board of trustees or the dean of students. Short of removing sororities from campus, their hands are tied. I know this because I am also an IU "employee". Believe me, we are bracing for unhappy students and parents, and are very, very tired of the way things are done. The only people that can change this is panhel, individual nationals and NPC.
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Originally Posted by pinksequins
Rhomom -- you note that the actives are disgusted with the process. The good news is that they are the ones with the power to change it.
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No, unfortunately the current actives do not. In fact, they have very little control (individually) of who gets through. Perhaps as alums they will become involved--then they may be able to change things. But for now, they too play with the cards they are dealt.
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Originally Posted by pinksequins
RhoMom -- they do. If as many women as you allege are unhappy with the process they can make it known to their Panhellenic delegates and alumnae. So, either the degree of dissatisfaction is overstated or it's another rationalization for not doing anything. I just keep reading lame excuses.
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Originally Posted by Rhomom
I "allege" nothing. This is simply the way it is. Actives HAVE expressed their concerns--to panhel, to nationals and they have worked with NPC. IU has opened up for expansion, many houses are allowing live outs and there are some small strides being made. It is however Panhel with direction from Nationals and alums who make the process decisions, not current members. If you are affiliated with an organization that allows current actives to drive the recruitment process, that is terrific, however it is not that simple. This is a complex system issue requiring a major shift in culture. The actives who feel this way today must continue to pursue change when they do have the power to impact things--as alumna.
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If EVERYONE - the national organizations, alumnae, NPC, the school's administration, the active students (who apparently have "no say" in the matter…) - want this system to be changed, and the national organizations, alumnae, and NPC have the power to change it, why hasn't it been changed? According to what you've said here, if they tried, they would encounter zero resistance.
What am I missing here?
And why would the current students have no say? I admittedly know very little about this system, other than what has been posted here on Greekchat over the years, but I can't imagine that the active members of these chapters who run Panhellenic on their campus have no ability to change the system so that they make 1800 PNMs and thousands of active sisters happy. I don't know of any other campus where the active members of the NPC sororities can't make decisions that impact recruitment and Greek life as a whole.
How is this campus different?