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Originally Posted by als463
Please stop assuming that I am missing your point. I'm not. You made it sound that because it worked at your smaller campus it will definitely work elsewhere. That was my point.
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When did I say, "What my sister specifically did will definitely turn things around elsewhere, 100% of the time?" I even pointed out that having that one member of my chapter didn't completely turn things around for mine.
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Originally Posted by als463
Ummmm...Actually this is about her thread. She spoke about the "tier" situation at a school I attended. AST Alumnae made a statement about how tiers can change and it sounded as though she was implying it was easy to do at such a major university based on her experience. I disagreed. If you don't like me replying to this, then you don't have to read it. I don't appreciate being told that I "don't get it" or something along those lines when I do get the point of what someone wrote. When people make statements about how things may change a particular way at your alma mater and you correct them, I will be sure to say the same thing to you.
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Again, when did I say it was easy? I never specifically said, "At Penn State main, tiers will change if girls do a, b, and c.." I said that I can't imagine tiers mattering all that much at PSU once you've received a bid (responding to what everyone else was saying). They're all great chapters, and there are so many people to get to know. You even said earlier that you had friends in all the chapters at PSU, and you love your chapter regardless of what anyone thinks. You're proud of your chapter, just like all sorority women are at Penn State. A bid to any of them would be an incredible gift.
I responded to AGDee who basically said the same thing:
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Originally Posted by AGDee
So, for *those* chapters- give them a chance. Get to know them. Reps and tiers are BS in huge systems like Penn State.
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And like 33girl said:
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Originally Posted by 33girl
I think this is very, very true of schools in this area in general. Even at the hugest Greek system in the state!! It's not something that's a social must like it is in the South or an avenue to better housing like at some other colleges and I think that makes the people who go through it more bonded together as a community - not just to their individual chapter - since we may have explain more to non-Greeks why we made the choice we made. When you're with other people who "get it" there's a sort of emotional shorthand that occurs.
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My other comments were AGAIN to point out that a lot of girls - in weak recruiting chapters, and strong recruiting chapters, and every type of chapter in between, at every school - forget that recruitment is a full-time job. They could all benefit from members who think outside the box and are willing to put themselves out there (not just in the example I described) to let people know that they're as awesome as they are. I never said that this alone would definitely solve all their problems. I said it MAY change perceptions and that having more girls who are willing to do anything and everything to make sure the world knows how great they are could turn things around.
I never pretended to know everything that goes on at Penn State. I simply pointed out (in continuing the conversation that was already occurring):
a) Penn State has so many people and such a large Greek system that I can't imagine tiers mattering all that much to Nittanyville if she received a bid, regardless of where the bid came from, and
b) many chapter members, in all chapters, of all sororities, at all schools, need to focus on recruitment (and PR, if you want to call it that) outside of the designated recruitment period set by Panhellenic.
:: phew :: ok...
The main reason that I actually came back here to respond was to say this...
I'm going to give you a piece of advice, that I hope you'll take to heart: You need to stop getting so butt hurt every time someone says something about Penn State that you don't agree with. Generally, when people have rational discussions about the school (or even when they just mention PSU in a sentence), and they say something that you disagree with, you fly off the handle.
Just because I attended a BRANCH campus (which you're always so quick to point out) doesn't mean that I love Penn State any less than you, or that I'm any less of a Penn Stater, or that I know absolutely nothing about the main campus and can't form opinions based on what I know and observe (just like other non-Penn Staters did here). I don't know if you've noticed this, but you make more enemies on this site than friends when talking about PSU. Perhaps you need to learn to be a little more rational when it comes to loving your alma mater.