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Originally Posted by Munchkin03

I don't think Paterno's imminent resignation is sad at all. I think the ongoing rape of children, with Paterno among others looking the other way, is sad as hell.

While I understand that you mean that JoePa's resignation is not as sad as what happened to these children, it is still sad. And I think that it is also unwarranted; JoePa is not to blame here. Sandusky, Curley, and and Schultz are. McQueery and JoePa did what they were supposed to do-- which is to follow the chain of command.

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

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I don't know what Paterno really knew, nor will I ever (most likely). And if this is how his time at Penn State has to end, so be it. But it doesn't make it any less heart-breaking.

Thank you. Every conversation I've overheard today is about this topic. I've talked about it in most classes. This school's heart is breaking for the families of this tragedy and how our administration is making a mess of it. PSU is more than a university-- it's a family. When something like this happens to one of us, it happens to all of us. But I cannot let the actions of a disgusting few affect my view of this university that has done so much for me.

Originally Posted by KSigkid

Agreed. It's incredible that someone like Paterno let this go so far.

Let's not kid ourselves: Paterno has more power than anyone at that school, including the administration. If he went to the administration and wanted this information taken to the authorities, they would have done it.

JoePa is only a man. I think we all forget this when we wear our rose colored glasses and drink the Kool-Aid, but he is. He did what he was supposed to do. He followed up with the case after reporting it, but child abuse cases take awhile to move, legendary head football coach or not. His superiors said they were taking care of it and he believed them. I can't say I would have done differently.

Originally Posted by kddani

The district attorney of that county disappeared in April 2005 and was just recently declared dead (never found a body). There are all kinds of conspiracy theories on that one. He investigated the '98 incident.

Just a little while ago, ESPN showed Penn State students rallying outside of JoePa's house. No, not telling him to resign. Begging him to stay. Disgusting.

Let me repeat-- JoePa is being made a scapegoat by the media because he is the most famous person involved. Period. He has not been charged with anything and I don't think that they have the grounds to try. I stand behind this man until he is charged and convicted of a crime. Otherwise he has my support. He and McQueery did as they should have and trusted the wrong people. It is the other three that should burn for this, not them.

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

Saw this on Sportcenter. Disgusting.

His lack of action here makes him just as guilty in my eyes.

No, I don't care that (as some say) "hey may not have gotten the full story from the people who told him, so maybe he mistakenly didn't think it was that big of a deal."

When you hear about something like that going on, I feel like it doesn't matter how much you were/were not told. You should take it upon yourself to see what's going on. Especially since this is your program.

He did act. That is what I'm getting at here. Maybe it seems odd to you that I feel the need to vindicate him on this but believe me I cannot rest until I try. This man is more than a football coach to us-- he's like the grandfather of the university. Several members of my family have met him, people I've known have been friends with him, he represents all that Penn State is to us-- pride, loyalty, honor, and tradition. Do I believe that he did all that he could have done in this situation? Perhaps not everything, and this will haunt him for the rest of his life if it's true. But he did do something. He reported what was told to him. He checked in on the situation. He did what he was supposed to do.

This is a horrible situation to be sure and I pray for every child and family involved. But let us not get into a pitchfork frenzy and forget the facts. The facts are that neither JoePa nor McQueery were charged with anything. As such they cannot be convicted and remain innocent in my eyes. Graham Spanier is being investigated, as are the other three. If they are found to be guilty, I will wash my hands of them. But not of Joe and McQueery. Honestly I think they are being scapegoated and while he may be made to resign, it will not be a reflection on him or his life's work but an administration that protected an unworthy and hugely effed up a lot of lives.