I'm a couple years younger than that (I may have rounded up a couple years elsewhere) & she's a couple years older than you're giving her credit for, but you should still be ashamed of yourselves. I wouldn't come on here smacking someone else around over a fresh break up. That's just evil. Especially since it wasn't caused for a lack of love, friendship, or ability to relate, but because of people like yall giving each of us constant shit. If this was an interracial relationship between people of the same age you'd call people giving them crap bad people, but you try to insert yourself into our relationship without even knowing either one of us or how we felt about each other. That's fucked up. I don't care what you think it looks like on the surface. You don't think it bothered us when we figured out the age difference? It did, but love is bigger than that bullshit, or at least I thought it was. But that's it. I'm not commenting on it further, and if you want to keep talking about it then you're fucked up people.
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Originally Posted by 33girl
As far as the young lady in question's pledge program - you get out of it what you put into it. If she didn't make an effort to get to know her pledge sisters and the rest of the sorority beyond what you described, didn't attend any events beyond what was required, didn't in effect GET HER MONEY'S WORTH, I'm sorry, but that's her own damn fault. Yes, a lot of these nationally mandated programs suck ass in some areas, but there's nothing the chapter can do about it. When you have 29 pledges who are busting their butts to get to know sisters, to get to know the rest of the Greek community, to attend all the events they can, and doing it without you twisting their arms, why on earth would you bother to twist the arm of #30 who does the bare minimum? If she felt her experience so subpar, she should not have initiated.
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It's like 200 in her chapter, pledge class I think close to 60. They had Wed night pledge class socials that she had late class and an 8am so didn't go to about half of those, but did try very very hard to get to know her pledge sisters. She was a couple years older then them, having transferred, and had trouble relating to a bunch of snooty 18yo girls versus some of the older actives (maybe that sounds ironic given the above info, or maybe it doesn't I don't know).
I get that her new member educator epically sucked by that chapter's standards, and that the chapter in question is weak in that area compared to presumably every other sorority on campus. But that's how it worked out. Now she's back & forth between wanting to drop and loving it.
I don't know. I don't care anymore. None of this was the point. Only that a shitty pledge program makes for a horrible greek experience. For guys at least it needs to be hard. Some chapters achieve that through hazing. Others use a range of different methods very far away from being showered with gifts. Whatever it is going to be for this guy, it's no joke & he needs to be prepared with some serious backbone to face whatever that challenge might be. That's something that actives will be looking for in the rush process, and excessive questions about hazing MAY put that in question. It would for me.