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Old 07-28-2010, 12:07 PM
sigmadiva sigmadiva is offline
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There is nothing academic or philosophical about what I typed and you are not going to reduce my comments to that.
Sorry about that. I thought that I was giving you a compliment.

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The bottom line is that you now grasp the point that country of origin, race and ethnicity, AND socioeconomic status matter in the illegal immigration debate.

I guess, to a point. I just don't think it is always so cut and dry based strictly on race / ethnicity as you are trying to make it. There may be some tendencies to trends, but I also think there are a lot of exceptions to the rule.


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My idea of practical day-to-day completely differs from yours.
Yeah, I think we (you and I) have come to this conclusion before in other issues that we have discussed.

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Do you not listen to the things that people say about illegal immigrants? The things that people say go far beyond whether or not someone has a visa or have overstayed their visa. And the issue of suspicion goes back to racial and ethnic profiling because it mostly occurs in areas with brown and black immigrants regardless of visa status.
Have you not experienced the arrogance of illegal immigrants in this country towards you, as a Black American? I mean, some of these people come over here, they don't speak the language, don't want to assimilate and socialize with you, and yet they want to look down their nose at you like being a Black American is a second class citizen when they have no rights in this country. It goes both ways sister.

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As I said in the post that you quoted: "Facing the inequality of the immigration debate doesn't mean that we agree with illegal immigration and are opposed to regulations. It means that we are being HONEST about the issues at hand and the pros and cons of the laws that are enacted. Put our brains and social consciousness to good use."
This is good, but it won't happen. People won't think rationally about the issue, they are just going to go with how they "feel".

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Anyway, this is now a very circular discussion.

Yup!


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LET THE PARTY BEGIN http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/07...ed-illegal-im/

The FUN thing about this list is that some of the people on it are here legally. Woohoo! Ain't no party like an immigrant party, 'cause an immigrant party don't stop!

Good stuff!!!
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