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I don't know how many of you have actually been to a real, live ghetto, but let me assure you -- the houses most of the time are in far better shape than even wealthy neighborhoods. HUD, which pays for Section 8, forces landlords to keep the places up to insanely good standards. Not only does everything have to completely work (we're talking even the smallest of details), but most of it also has to be new, and replaced with each tenant. This is way above the standards most universities and colleges have for student housing. Most of the time, if a ghetto was completely abandoned, with the people, cars, trash, and graffiti gone, it would be identical to a wealthier neighborhood elsewhere. There is no real difference structurally.

The problem comes with the people -- they make bad choices time and time again throughout life, and they end up stuck in dead end jobs and only able to afford subsidized housing. When several of these people get together to form a community, what do you expect?

And the apartment complex mentioned earlier that was mentioned as "good example of subsidized housing" was Morningside Gardens Apartment Complex. You can probably read about it on Wikipedia -- but so what? The evidence there is merely anecdotal.