[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by msl2008

why don't you think i'm greek ksuviolet? is it b/c my organization hazes and you just can't accept the fact? sorry for actually having a process where i actually had to go thru some hardships. if i was showered with gifts and encouraged the whole way i would probably be saying the same thing as you are b/c you haven't seen the other side. remember that even though football training is preparing you for the game and military training is preparing you for war, would you question that the process is effective and makes people stronger mentally and physically? even if a glo isn't preparing you for anything in particular, it can also make you stronger whether you guys agree or not.

Your analogies still suck.

and for those of you who say earn your letters after you cross, i ask why you don't just give your letters out to everyone then? it's funny how you think my organization is messed up but we're actually proud of our letters. i see many fraternities let friends or gfs wear their letters all the time. great way of earning your letters huh? what a joke.

So the only thing your organization is good for is making good pledges? I guess having good brothers is not a priority.

BTW, I've seen members of fraternities that have been hazed who still give their letters to their girlfriends. What's their excuse?

but i guess you guys are right. you probably won't change my mind b/c i haven't heard of any good ideas as alternatives to hazing. doesn't really matter to me though since i don't haze people anymore anyway. i was just looking for some ideas that i could give to my chapter but if all i'm going to get is an argument on why hazing is stupid and personal insults, then i guess i'm wasting my time.

I'm going to laugh when your chapter gets closed for a hazing incident.

but if you guys have any GOOD ideas, i'm still open to them. but if all you want to do is insult me, well a public forum is a pretty ridiculous and childish place to do that. you guys have really proven how much you guys respect your orgs huh?

You keep avoiding my question about the hybrid program. Why do you need ideas if your way is already working?

Excluding you, everyone in this thread has shown distaste for hazing and has stated that the best way to show brotherhood and sisterhood is through service in our respective organizations. That is showing respect for our GLOs.

So yea, massive fail on your part.