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Old 02-24-2009, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Senusret I View Post
^^^ But who's to say an 18-year old, second semester freshman who pledges an NPHC org knows at that age that they're going to go through with a gender transition?
Of course I know that I'm swerving, but you've always been good to me when I asked sincere questions in the past:

Don't you think that the national identities (I mean something like "images," but more substantial and true of the ideals of the groups) of the individual NPHC groups would, in almost all cases, keep a transgendered person from fully identifying with a group for his or her birth gender? (I apologize for not being sure of the term. I mean first biological gender, before any transitioning.)

For example, I have a hard time thinking that someone who felt biologically a man would be interested in joining a women's group in 99% of the cases. I know we've got the case in the news recently, but I think it's pretty exceptional.

And in an unrelated question, what percentage of NPHC members do you think would consider a transgendered person worthy of membership? (I'll go ahead and say that I think the vast majority of NPC members and IFC members would be uncomfortable with a transgendered member, although not a vast majority of NPC/IFC GreekChat users willing to speak up in a thread about the issue will feel this way.)

I don't think that these members find the transgendered less than human or anything super horrible, but because my perception from the outside is that a member might take seriously the idea of being an Alpha Phi Alpha man or a Delta Sigma Theta woman so that someone with any gender related issue might, in their minds, fail to live up to the ideals of the group based on that complication alone. It may be an elite thing as much as a gender thing.

ETA: I see that the conversation has kind of passed me by while I was composing. People expressed what I was thinking while I was trying to figure out how to say it.

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