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Originally Posted by LaneSig
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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk
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Originally Posted by KappaKittyCat
Maybe this is just where I'm from, but at my alma mater it was always known when initiation was. I believe that for sororities, we have to tell the pledges when initiation is - keeping it a secret is considered hazing.
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Which is absolutely fucking ridiculous.
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Maybe to your group, but not to KappaKitty's. All groups have their own rules. Personally, I think it's ridiculous to not let the pledges know when initiation will be held. We had several guides serving in the National Guard and many guys who worked. They needed to know when events were going to occur.
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No, in my opinion, it's pretty ridiculous to consider it hazing. Under the circumstances you described, it might be inconsiderate or even likely to result in people missing initiation. That =/= hazing, I don't think.
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Originally Posted by epchick
from what I understand after talking to friends of mine in fraternities was that the pledges did NOT know when initiation was, but they were told what days they had to meet, so that they could get work off & such. So it was just blindsiding them, they knew what days pledge activities or whatnot would happen, just not what the activities were.
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Exactly. Like I said earlier, the calendar we would have given our probationary members would have had
something scheduled for the day and time of initiation, along with instructions on how to dress. It just wouldn't have said "initiation"; it would have said some other event. "Initiation" would have appeared a week or two later on the calendar (meaning everything on the calendar after the real initiation date/time was a decoy).