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Originally Posted by jlenoconel
Fraternities are obviously a very elitist, Republican type of organization. Sad really, because if you guys are Christians but still excluding people for small things like their sexuality, then you are fools. Jesus told us not to judge others but obviously you are still doing that. Its OK anyway, I will never meet any of you guys ever anyway, so its no skin off of my nose. You can feel the way you do, its your choice. But ask yourself a real question - what is it about homosexuality that makes you so nervous? I mean nervous enough to exclude another human being from your special, little organization. I don't allow people to make fun of me for preferring men, I have standards and I don't accept everything about the gay community either. Maybe one day I will join a fraternity or something similar, and I will keep my sexuality private... out of respect of others, not because I think its shameful. Thats only if all the straight guys don't go on about fucking tits and stuff like that all day because I would be mightily offended if I hear that shit, degrading women and all!
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Define "judging." I don't think I'm a better person than a gay person. I don't think I'm a better Christian than a gay person. In my mind, it is one less sin I'm not committing, but I'm sure I make up for it, and I don't think being gay is more of a sin than any of the ones I commit consistently. But not judging doesn't mean accepting. Jesus loved and associated with people who sinned, but that doesn't mean he condoned their sins. Of course this probably doesn't mean anything to you because you don't believe homosexuality is a sin, but I do, so that is my take on this. So no, I don't think I'm judging you when I don't invite a gay person into my fraternity. If there is a kid who is a bad student, I probably wouldn't want him in my fraternity. That doesn't mean I won't associate with him, and it doesn't mean I think I'm better than he is. It means I don't think he's a good fit for this organization.
I'm not nervous about homosexuality. I have no idea why I am naturally repulsed by it, but I am, just the same. I also noticed you said "exclud[ing] another human being," and I don't get what you're saying here. We aren't excluding gay people from society. We're not saying you can't go to college, we're not saying you can't work here. We're saying it is unlikely you'll be a member of a fraternity, which in my situation, is analogous to a private social club. I wouldn't knowingly invite liberals to join my imaginary conservative club, and I'm not going to knowingly invite gay guys to join a group of similarly-minded straight guys (but one could be gay!!! I know, unlikely,doesn't matter anyway, good try). If we need to let gay people in because they're "human beings" then we should let everyone in, and thus, what the hell is the point of a fraternity. I can be around "everyone" by stepping outside my door.