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Originally Posted by AGDee
Florida and Michigan have very different circumstances and should be looked at separately.
Florida: The REPUBLICAN state congress changed the date for the primary and the Dems had no choice. Therefore, the Dems there should not be punished. All of the candidates were on the ballot. Therefore, their delegates should be seated as is.
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The Dems all signed on to the bill and could have made alternative arrangements to hold a caucus without any trouble. They could also have gotten separate approval to have a primary later just like they're doing now. The mail-in primary that they seem to be working on will have to be approved by the state legislature. The Republicans sanctioned Florida as well and it's only because that nominee is decided that they're not fussing.
Finally, you have the same name recognition problem that you do in Michigan. Add to that Hillary's "I'm not campaigning here but oh by the way we'll have a party afterwards and I'll get your delegate seated" announcement the day before and I'm not thrilled with it either way.
Michigan doesn't appear to be working forward in the same way Florida has, but they were both struck, along with all the Super Tuesday states, with a "NO I WANT TO BE FIRST" syndrome.
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Originally Posted by honeychile
Just so I'm not misunderstood - I have always been upset that I live in one of the last states to hold their primary, when tiny little Vermont and places like that make or break so many candidates. Come on, we have 187 delegates to their 23 delegates! I know that I'm far from the only person who feels somewhat disenfranchised by the lateness of our primary - which obviously spurred Michigan and Florida to push theirs up.
In a perfect world, there would be 5 Super Tuesdays, two weeks apart, with an equal amount of high and low delegates in each match. But it's never going to happen - or not in our lifetimes, anyway.
Another question: If they hold a new primary in Michigan and in Florida, what about the people who have died between January and the new primary?
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I don't think Vermont really makes or breaks candidates, and since the primaries used to
start in March I don't know why we should be expected to be finished with them anyway. It's ironic that the state's that pushed so hard to be first on Super Tuesday have actually mattered less than the ones who didn't move theirs forward.
Besides the people who died, you also have open primaries in Michigan - people could cross over the second time, and people changing their party registration in Florida - how would they keep track of that!