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Old 02-18-2008, 10:57 AM
Drolefille Drolefille is offline
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Originally Posted by bohdi View Post
When seconds count, the police are only minutes away. Had the school allowed the faculty, or the students to carry concealed weapons on campus, the numbers could be lower. Notice I didn't say the numbers would be eliminated. A crazed gunperson is probably always going to claim a few vicitms, that cannot be ignored. What I'm talking about is reducing the casualties and deaths by allowing students and faculty the option to carry. This cannot be ignored as was proven in Colorado Springs recently; armed citizens are deterrents and can put an end to a murder spree quickly. The school has a duty to provide security, actual security for the students, not measures to make students “feel” safe. I imagine that’s part of the tuition cost, and if I was a student attending there today I’d feel ripped off. If the administrators cannot guarantee a safe environment for learning then they should allow responsible adults – which last time I checked is the term used for people of age 18 and older in this country, to be armed on campus and off as local/state laws allow. Otherwise the school administration should look no further than them for allowing this to happen. They make the policy, they enforce the policy. People say guns on campus are a bad idea. Look at the lack of gun play at the Univeristy of Utah, where responsible students are allowed to carry. No mass shootings there.
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Another way to look at this, is for all the boys and girls out there. How many of you have taken any kind of self defense classes or were taught how to "fight" or defend yourself? Why did you feel the need to do so? These things taught by those instructors are tools for you to use. No different than a gun, it's just a different type of tool. If someone tried to punch you in the face would you try to block it? Why would you not want to be able to try and shoot someone that was purposely shooting at you?
Not going to respond to the whole thing as a) it's tl;dr, b) you're a one-poster and c) I have better things to do this morning. But, in response to the bolded:

The gunman in Colorado springs was shot by a security guard. Yes it was her personal weapon, but it was also her JOB. Despite the fact that conceal-carry appears to be legal there, there's no evidence that arming your average citizen deterred anything.

And secondly: Because returning fire means I make a better target. This isn't the movies and it isn't my job to kill the bad guy. It's my job to stay alive and to help others stay alive if possible. Also, even if I were 100% skilled enough to do so, I do NOT believe that this random chance outweighs the dislike I have for everyone else around me to be carrying a weapon. As it is, college students have less than fully developed decision making areas of their brains. I do not trust a large percentage of the population with a firearm carried on their person.
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