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Originally Posted by UGAalum94
Right, McCain supports staying in Iraq. C and B do not, as near as I can tell based on what they seem to be saying right now.
And the war on terror including Iraq now isn't some Republican rhetorical trope; it's reality.
Do you imagine that the insurgents are legitimate combatants in a recognized civil war? Who wins if we leave Iraq today? I don't think it's the Iraqi people.
No doubt, we'd all decide not to go into Iraq if we knew then what we know now. But just pulling our forces out doesn't leave Iraq in the same situation it was in before we went in. I think we can all agree on that.
The GOP candidates all seem to hold that we've got an obligation to stay and more to lose if the terror networks presently in Iraq are allowed to win and continue to undermine the democratically elected government.
As near as I can tell the US Democratic position seems to be something like let's cut our losses; it was a mistake; let's quit spending good money after bad.
It's hard for me to not also see that the Democratic position either includes a little element of "It was W's bad, so it's not our problem, so f the Iraqis if it comes to that" or a denial that the newly elected pres. will in fact have to leave more forces in Iraq than the candidates want to admit.
ETA: the Democratic position also, of course, holds that war is bad. And it is, unless you're fighting something worse which is a much harder call to make e.g. most people's attitudes about Darfur where people seem to want military intervention, so they'll just go with war is bad and hope that Iraq isn't so destabilized that there's genocide if we pull out.
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100 more years in Iraq?????
Us being there is just one of the causes that the terrorist use in recruiting.
Perhaps it is NOW time for the people and Government of Iraq to step up to the plate and take over the running on their own country.
Name any other country that we have bases in that we are running the country.
Us being there just delays them from facing and doing something about the very hard chooses and decisions that they have to make.
They just put it off on us.
And as I pointed out, us being there just helps the criminals.
And as I pointed out, the war on terror was not in Iraq. They had very little if anything to do with it.
The political decisions made by our politicians caused the war to expand into Iraq. Thus, as you pointed out, it is now a reality.
Should we just pack out bags and leave in February? NO.
And IMVHO no one really believes or thinks that can or will happen.