[arvid1978]

Originally Posted by Empress0105

sit will be a cold day in hell before these hbcu chapters willingly allow a chic to come into their orgs....that's just being honest....they might even initiate her, but to actually include her in the "brother" aspect, like hangin out at the frat house and hopping at parties...you know, the social things that seperate a fraternity from circle k or your local food bank volunteers....i don't see it happening. and i say that for ALL chapters of co ed orgs at HBCU that are currently single gender but are indirectly being forced to be co-ed....i mean Tenn State is co-ed, but they also had to reactivate....same thing with apo here at howard....but FAMU??? TUSKEGEE??? man...i just don't see it...

Um, there is no "frat house" for any APO member to hang out at, that is prohibited by the National Bylaws. If they are hanging out at an APO Frat House, they've got a whole other set of issues to deal with.

Every chapter chartered before 1976 was chartered as an all-male chapter, and right now we have less than 20 holdouts. Lots of chapters have been reactivated at least once. Hell, we don't even have our Alpha chapter active, and it's been reactivated more than once. The fact that TN State is a re-charter doesn't mean anything.

I'm certain there was a time when people said APO wouldn't work at an HBCU because it was founded by whites and has Scouting at its core. Clearly, that isn't the case. Times are changing, and APO is choosing to lead the way rather than stick their heads in the sand. How many other GLO's have so many chapters on both HBCU campuses and non-HBCU campuses? I think that speaks volumes about our commitment to diversity and how it doesn't matter if you're black, white, yellow, red, purple, green, male, female or somewhere in between....you are all welcome to Be A Leader, Be A Friend and Be Of Service.

i think it's great you want to support your national officers in their decision, but i think that in this world today, how man chics aren't in certain chapters should be the least of these white ladies issues...

This was not a decision of the national officers, this was a decision upheld by the active (student) members of Alpha Phi Omega, as was the original decision to go co-ed in 1976. The national officers make recommendations, but it is ultimately up to the students.

I'm disgusted that you're playing the race card on this matter. Absolutely disgusted. Opinions along these lines only serve to further the racial divide and foster a "black people vs. everybody else" mentality. This has nothing to do with race, this is a matter of gender equity. (FWIW, I am a white male advisor to a predominately black female chapter on a co-ed public university campus, so I'm not exactly ignorant about these issues...) Do you think the predominately white all-male chapters are welcoming this with open arms and this is a plight to force co-ed APO at HBCU's? Our Delta chapter is all-male, and last time I checked my greek alphabet, Delta (Auburn) and Gamma Lambda (Clemson) are a hell of a lot older than Pi Zeta (Tuskegee) or Kappa Delta (FAMU) or Chi Nu (Grambling). APO chapters at HBCU's do not own the market on having to adapt following this re-affirmation of our membership policy.

we can agree to disagree...but i still think it's a retarded decision that whether we want to face it or not soror, WILL eventually affect us.

So it's a retarded decision for us to actually enforce our policies and bylaws? Because that is what the decision was about. Don't make it more than it needs to be.