[marquise1911]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

LOL. Senruset, I wonder why folks started using "dogmatic" like this. Was there a song lyric that confused people, or something? Who can I blame...George Clinton? Snoop Dog?

Lol! No the ques abused it! That is all

Eh...there is accuracy in your statements but that's based on researching history through documentation and old school member accounts. Not because "the great marquise1911 said."

Lol! Yes Ma'am, but It sounds much better the way I said it!

ETA: The colored canes (and stepping and strolling with canes) debate is different than the "who carried canes debate." Many men carried canes in the earlier 1900s because it was a sign of being a gentleman and so forth. It was initially not fraternity related but transfered over. This is why you will see different fraternities with canes in their pledge line photos or just walking across the yard. So whether carrying canes began with fraternity-specific meaning or just evolved into a fraternity-specific meaning is something that is almost impossible to prove 100% considering what was happening in the general population.

Correction, gentlemen carried fashionable walking sticks and pledges carried stalfs. My founders carried canes, which were a sign of injury. Ask yourself what man bares signs of injury with pride?