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Originally Posted by KSig RC
You haven't addressed the point that essentially refutes this:
Israel has been quite precise in its bombing, and has spent limited resources on attacks on civilian areas in the south of Lebanon and the Hezbollah-controlled southern suburbs of Beirut.
If Israel chose to ignore civilian lives, it would not show this sort of precision.
Are civilians killed? Yes - clearly. The reasons for this are essentially a.) propaganda techniques by Hezbollah that place tactical positions inside civilian encampments (which they've done since, oh, the 1970s - and we saw this in Iraq, as well, with Mosque encampments) and b.) the necessary collateral damage of war.
Note that this issue is NOT a matter of degree - that is to say, "just because Israel could wipe the nation off the map, that does not mean they are doing well by not" - as I'm sure will be your initial reaction. However, I'm pretty sure you can't get around this point - especially when rockets are being fired indescriminately into Israeli civilian locations.
Can you actually address this point? No ad hominem, no political bias - no way for you to cop out here, I'm seriously interested.
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Precise Israeli bombings? bombs are NOT precise. They are indiscriminate. If they were so precise, why was the UNIFIL, just yesterday, bombed at? This isnt the first time this happened. There was another bombing about a week ago, both hizbullah and IDF said it wasn't their bombs. But the UN confirmed it to be an Israeli shell. These bombs and targets are NOT precise. Unless of course, you consider a mosque (under construction and obviously unoccupied) are precise targetting. Or how about the hospitals under attack? the infrastructure of lebano. How about the targetting of fleeing families (trying to evacuate)? Sorry, it is NOT precise enough. Maybe the missiles the US is sending could help them out a bit.
Civilians are necessary collateral damage? Does that include Israeli civilian lives as well, or just lebanese? Does it include children, babies, fleeing families, foreigners (UN)?
Listen, bombs (whether from Israel or Hizbullah) are indiscriminate. Except, its Israel who are saying they are being "careful" not to target civilians when they obviously are. Again, who is suffering most of the loss here? Let's get this straight, Lebanon DID not start this war. Hizbullah did (and no under governmental orders either).
Propoganda is perpetrated by both sides (IDF and Hizbullah).
Did I address all your points?