Theta Phi chapter loses charter
 

This isn't good. :(

This is sad, so many chapters are still being involved in these activities, especially before College of Chapters. It is a shame.

Very unfortunate.

I'm glad that Nationals is at least taking a hard line against hazing... If chapters aren't living up to our core values and basic principles, they have no right to call themselves Sigma Nu material.

These chapters must just live in a bubble, with a disability to reach outside their chapter, to other chapters, the internet, anything.... How can you even mess around with some of the chapters that have been closed???

If they close the big boys down for violations (and they have), then you know they wont waste any times with the Lander's of the world. Straighten up your ships :(

I'm glad they chose to give at least vague information about the circumstances that led to the closing. I'm shocked that any chapter is stupid enough to actually paddle anyone.

I've been to two Grand Chapters and a College of Chapters. There are still quite a few chapters out there that haze. It's far more common than you'd think.

I've actually heard them say that as long as you're not actually striking the pledges, it's not hazing.

Crash!
 

I have been impressed with the firmness of Sigma Nu's stance. I know as the mother of two future pnms I would want my boys to pledge a fraternity that lives its ideals, and would tolerate no abuse. So while the news is sad, because losing a chapter is always unfortuante, Sigma Nus across the country should take solace in the greater good that is afforded to the name of Sigma Nu because of their principled stand.

See, it's a response from a mother and fellow greek like that which makes our policy all the more worth it. National is VERY strict on policy. I have to call Risk Reduction tomorrow to explain to them that the "Family Drink" I have with my 25 year old big bro alum and me (24) is an unofficial thing we do at special occasions and birthdays....National fears it's some hazing thing where you make pledges drink a specific liqour with their big bros or something. It's absolutely amazing that they assume the worst and come down on the small side comments made on MySpace/Facebook.....but in the long run I suppose it's better for our organization overall and I like our reputation of having dignified pledging.

My big bro and I have a similar tradition... and it was my idea after I was initiated and of age. I didn't realize that could be interpreted as hazing, but in light of how other fraternities may force their pledges to participate in such activities, I suppose it could be a gray area.

Interesting...

Although it is extremely sad to hear about us losing another chapter... I only hope that it'll show those out there that are still hazing that it's time to shape up. Unfortunately while at College of Chapters there were still several chapters that admitted to stuff (in our groups) that is hazing and they hope to correct it when getting back.

At the last CoC I attended back in (I think) '01, a lot of chapters admitted to hazing as well. At Grand Chapter, it seemed like just about everyone did but us. I think HQ is taking a pretty strong stance as far as changing our culture. It's going to happen a little bit at a time. In 10 years though? I believe we'll be a totally different organization where risk management is concerned.

Wow... never having been to CoC or GC, that's very surprising to hear. I admit I only have a local perspective of how our fraternity handles the issue, but our chapter is EXTREMELY strict about hazing. We practically have to draw straws to determine our Risk Reduction chair because no one wants to be the ball-breaker.

Our Chapter bylaws have strict consequences for offenses, including the immediate notification of Nationals for any hazing related incident.

Wow.. I exaggerate don't I? Bad choice of words. I should say that just about everyone we hung out with was a more.. "traditional" chapter, so to speak. We're talking '02 though. There's been a lot of time to change since then.

Nah from what I saw there were many many many chapters who have I-Weeks, Hell Weeks, etc etc and admitted to activities that can easily be construed as hazing.

I didn't hear any stories of behavior that I felt went to such levels of extremity that I felt immediate action had to be take though....(forced drinking, physical punishment, paddling, servitude, etc) but then again people might be wary about talking with other chapters about those activities. I'd go completely ape if I ever saw one of those four things taking place in my chapter.