Bye-Bye Zundel - Holocaust Denier to be deported
 

Holocaust denier Zundel ordered deported to Germany

Good news from the Supreme Court of Canada....

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...el_deportation
On another Supreme Court related matter...

The Supreme Court of Canada has ordered a new trial in the case of some skinheads charged with hatecrimes from a 1997 rally here in Toronto... which of course means I have the great pleasure of testifying against them again... and almost certainly recieving death threats and such again...

so.. did he actually do anything or is this another example of how the US is great because of our First Amendment?

You mean other than the re-publishing and distrubution of hate literature advocating genocide against "undesirables"? or the literature and lectures he constantly makes on the denile of the Holocuast? or the laundering of money for groups like Aryan Nation? or the organization of the Heritage Front - which has been implicated in the fire bombing of Mosques, Synagogues and recently Churchs that have preformed same-sex marriages?

Oh and Canada does have in it Charter of Rights and Freedoms a clause protecting free-speach (Section 2b actually).

so- you're saying Free Speech as long as it's what Big Brother Canuck says is OK?

Pretty much the same as the US 1st Amendment - except that provisions are embedded within the Charter to exclude things like hate speech - ie. the advocation violence against or denegration of others based on sex, sexuality, religion, ethnicity, age, or culture...

So yes free speech as long as someone doesn't take you to court over what you have said (private individuals or the government). Zundel's main defense was that he was advocating his freedom of expression and speech - but the Supreme Court just didn't buy it... and I don't blame them - the guys a grade 'A' nutter that has been exploiting legal loopholes and avenues to keep himself in Canada and to keep promoting his hate for decades now.

Of course that isn't to say that others haven't tried to take non-legal action against him... like the bomb the police had to defuse about a decade ago... or the firebombing and burning down of his house/office - which was ironic because he had just published a pamphlet praising those that had firebombed a mosque and synagogue earlier about a week before....

Section 2(b) of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms says:

freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication;

Now, this is a fundamental freedom entrenched the the Charter, however it technically only protects you from the government. It does not guarantee you protection from individuals. However, it does not give one the license to commit crimes. Like RACooper said, it is very much like the U.S bill of rights.

If anyone is interested, here it is

Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms

This clearly shows why hate speech laws infringe on constitutional freedoms. He may be an idiot racist, but he should have the right to be so and say & print his stupidity.
Canadian censorship must really suck balls.

He is a criminal. He is committing a criminal offence under Canadian Law.

s.318(1) of the Criminal Code says:

Every one who advocates or promotes genocide is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years

also s.319(1)(a) and (b) of the Criminal Code says:

Every one who, by communicating statements in any public place, incites hatred against any identifiable group where such incitement is likely to lead to a breach of the peace is guilty of

(a) an indictable offence and is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years; or

(b) an offence punishable on summary conviction.


So yes, he is committing a crime and he is not a Canadian citizen.

I cant believe Canada is doing something that might hurt someones feelings, even if he is a bastard.

Looks like little brother up to the north might have found his balls.

umm, we have the same restrictions in America, not sure why you're angry at the Canadian government over this?

When you ban "hate speech," you are regulating thought. Please don't disparage the First Amendment with such a comparison.

In my opinion, "hate crimes," including "hate speech," are perhaps the most insidious assault on liberty that has ever been faced by a free people.

I disagree. I don't think it infringes on my liberty as a Canadian citizen.

The Canadian Criminal Code differentiates between people inciting hatred and people expressing thoughts and feelings that some might consider hateful.

The law protects those from the zealots that might take their feelings and act on them. They are not regulating thought.

There is a difference between speech that is hateful, and that which is inciteful. Even when trying to regulate inciteful speech, there needs to be a clear and compelling reason to do so, and it must be based on urgency (like yelling "fire" in a movie theater.)

If the law is superfluous to existing laws, its a diminishment of liberty, and even worse, it begins a slow and slippery slope to tyrany.

Yes, I agree. However, this law is not superfluous. It sets out clear guidelines for what constitutes criminal behaviour and what does not.

Canada is it's own country with its own leaders, citizens, and laws. It is free to kick this guy out for breaking the law.

-Rudey