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KoalaBear11 02-16-2013 08:18 PM

HELP!!!!!!!
 
I need help finding discrete challenges for my girls to do so they can bond, develop secrecy, and discipline while they are on line... all suggestions/ideas are welcome

amIblue? 02-16-2013 08:21 PM

Yeah, I think that's also known as hazing.

thetalady 02-16-2013 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by KoalaBear11 (Post 2203930)
I need help finding discrete challenges for my girls to do so they can bond, develop secrecy, and discipline while they are on line... all suggestions/ideas are welcome

I am assuming, but NPC rules probably don't apply in this situation. Using the term "on line" means NPHC. NPHC works differently.

amIblue? 02-16-2013 09:54 PM

I get that. Hazing remains hazing to me.

DubaiSis 02-16-2013 10:04 PM

I think there are a lot of things that are clearly hazing, but we've had plenty of discussions on these boards about things that are technically hazing that a lot of us did and called it FUN not hazing.

I think there are a lot of game type activities that can be done that maybe the NPC wouldn't allow (and in my opinion to its detriment) that the NPHC might. Murder mystery parties, scavenger hunts (minus any embarrassing or hurtful elements), team sports, trust exercises, problem solving tasks all would do these kinds of things. If you can do it at a corporate retreat, I would think it would be ok to do it with a line.

amIblue? 02-16-2013 10:23 PM

Yes, but games at a corporate retreat don't require developing secrecy, or discipline, for that matter. Neither do the scavenger hunts that I had fun with when I was a pledge. I now find it ridiculous that these kinds of things are labeled hazing.

It's the secrecy and discipline comments made by the op that I find worrisome. YMMV.

33girl 02-17-2013 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KoalaBear11 (Post 2203930)
I need help finding discrete challenges for my girls to do so they can bond, develop secrecy, and discipline while they are on line... all suggestions/ideas are welcome

x + 24 + y = 32 - z

Define x, y and z.

adpiucf 02-17-2013 08:33 PM

OP, do not do anything secret. Everything should be in your new member plans and approved by your chapter, advisers, and any applicable national officers.

Yes, Greek Chatters, I realize this is not NPC. But I strongly doubt any NPHC sorority gives its new member coordinator or the equivalent carte blanche because of the potential for legal liability.

To summarize, OP, please don't do anything stupid that is not previously approved by your higher-ups. Do not do anything "secret." Consult your Greek Adviser for ideas of approved activities.

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Originally Posted by amIblue? (Post 2203952)
Yes, but games at a corporate retreat don't require developing secrecy, or discipline, for that matter. Neither do the scavenger hunts that I had fun with when I was a pledge. I now find it ridiculous that these kinds of things are labeled hazing.

It's the secrecy and discipline comments made by the op that I find worrisome. YMMV.


You can find it as ridiculous as you want, but that doesn't change the fact that it is considered hazing. Also, the games at a corporate retreat are vetted because god forbid someone gets hurt and the corporation gets sued!



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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2204110)
x + 24 + y = 32 - z

Define x, y and z.

hahahhahahahhah

amIblue? 02-17-2013 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by adpiucf (Post 2204117)
You can find it as ridiculous as you want, but that doesn't change the fact that it is considered hazing. Also, the games at a corporate retreat are vetted because god forbid someone gets hurt and the corporation gets sued!

No shit. Thank you for your condescension. I'll bear that in mind as I continue my career in risk management.

I am fully capable of intellectualizing the need to ban them while at the same time feeling that it's a shame that innocently intended fun has to be done away with.

adpiucf 02-17-2013 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by amIblue? (Post 2204132)
No shit. Thank you for your condescension. I'll bear that in mind as I continue my career in risk management.

I am fully capable of intellectualizing the need to ban them while at the same time feeling that it's a shame that innocently intended fun has to be done away with.


Olive branch extended: You didn't express it was a shame. You expressed that it was ridiculous, which would indicate that you don't see the potential for liability. Now you have clarified, I can see that we are on the same page. Yes, it is a shame that a few idiots have ruined what would be otherwise innocent activities.

Good luck with your career in risk management. I have no doubt you'll be extremely successful.

sigmagirl2000 02-17-2013 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2204110)
x + 24 + y = 32 - z

Define x, y and z.

x + y + z = 8...... now there are infinitely many possibilities from there, but math (slightly tipsy) girl had to go that far.... : )

AGDee 02-18-2013 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by sigmagirl2000 (Post 2204154)
x + y + z = 8...... now there are infinitely many possibilities from there, but math (slightly tipsy) girl had to go that far.... : )

43 possibilities, if we assume they are whole numbers.

DeltaBetaBaby 02-18-2013 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 2204212)
43 possibilities, if we assume they are whole numbers.

and positive ;-)

amIblue? 02-18-2013 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by adpiucf (Post 2204144)
Olive branch extended: You didn't express it was a shame. You expressed that it was ridiculous, which would indicate that you don't see the potential for liability. Now you have clarified, I can see that we are on the same page. Yes, it is a shame that a few idiots have ruined what would be otherwise innocent activities.

Good luck with your career in risk management. I have no doubt you'll be extremely successful.

Sorry for the grouchiness.

adpiucf 02-18-2013 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by amIblue? (Post 2204233)
Sorry for the grouchiness.

Hatchet buried! Is there an emoticon for that?


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