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HeatherAndIvy 08-25-2008 11:45 PM

Sisters who can't recruit
 
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KSUViolet06 08-25-2008 11:49 PM

I'm not sure what you're getting at here, but I doubt anyone's going to answer this.

lillady85 08-26-2008 12:08 AM

If the OP is aiming for someone to say "Sister Sue" was told she had terrible hygiene and could not recruit, I don't think anyone on GC will say that. However, I am sure there are chapters who have girls who are not good recruiters. Not everyone is and girls shouldn't feel bad about it. I think someone on GC even once admitted they weren't that great so they were asked to help in the kitchen instead.

I'm sure in that case, chapters have asked sisters not to participate in the actual recruitment but they do it with tact.

texas*princess 08-26-2008 12:25 AM

By your username it's obvious what sorority you are in.

Do you REALLY want to represent your sisterhood by bringing up junk like that during RECRUITMENT TIME?

Just sayin'.

Unregistered- 08-26-2008 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by HeatherAndIvy (Post 1705408)
We all have requirements for what we can and can't do, wear, say, etc etc during recruitment, but I was wondering if anyone has stories about sisters who were told not to participate in recruitment (by the national or the chapter) for one reason or another, how they took it, and how other sisters responded.

What does Alpha Phi IHQ say?

nittanyalum 08-26-2008 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by EE-BO (Post 1705476)
Seriously though- this is one of the more amazing questions I have seen here.

And that's saying A LOT.

I think SOMEone needs to visit the Nice thread!

Zillini 08-26-2008 07:04 AM

I remember ages ago an active requested to be excused from Recruiting. She believed the process went against her religious beliefs because "all of God's children are wonderful". True, but not all of God's children are entitled to wear our letters. :) We let her work in the kitchen and do other go-for type tasks.

RaggedyAnn 08-26-2008 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Zillini (Post 1705527)
I remember ages ago an active requested to be excused from Recruiting. She believed the process went against her religious beliefs because "all of God's children are wonderful".

Now that's a new excuse I've never heard before. Ingenious!

HeatherAndIvy 08-26-2008 10:01 AM

I sooooo did not mean this negatively (and it's totally unrelated to alpha phi!) so I'm sorry if it came off that way! I'm a new member, so I don't even have involvement in that, but I was wondering because I know girls in other sororities who have piercings and tattoos that are difficult to hide and have been strongly recommended not to go to recruitment... I was just wondering if that happens much. Maybe someone doesn't dress properly or refuses to follow some rule (like the religious one) or something along those lines. Is this question really all that inappropriate?
(Also, my user name actually came from a different sorority I was involved with)

sarahsmilehawk 08-26-2008 11:28 AM

There are always women in my chapter that would prefer not to recruit. Most of them are shy and have a hard time making conversation with strangers. Some of them just hate running up and down the stairs and singing the songs over and over.

Those girls usually apply to be on our food team, which basically serves water and decorates a few cheesecakes, or tab team, which deals with paper work.

Often, women who like talking to people but hate practicing during work week become recruitment counselors.

Any piercings can be hidden with a clear retainer, and hygiene can be fixed.

AGDee 08-26-2008 06:18 PM

I always tried to do jobs for recruitment that would keep me off the "floor". I'm good at pouring punch, I'm not good at small talk with people I've never met before.

Correction: In college I was not good at small talk with people I'd never met before. Now? I can make conversation with anybody.. self confidence is a beautiful thing.

PhoenixAzul 08-26-2008 06:34 PM

I don't get it...that sister was obviously worthy enough to be admitted to membership. Like it or not, she's part of the face of the sorority, even if the face has a stud in it. Shouldn't we be showing PNM's the real sorority, not some whitewashed version of it?

Now, if we're talking about girls who get really anxious about having to talk to strangers or make a mean cheese cake, surely they can be re-assigned to support tasks because, hey, someone's gotta do it. But relegating a girl because she's got a piercing or a tattoo? Doesn't sit right with me. She's good enough to wear letters the other 51 weeks out of the year...my thing is I worry about this going further into issues of weight and appearance, which is counter productive to the goals of building women's self confidence and teamwork.

irishpipes 08-26-2008 06:38 PM

This makes me think of the public defender in My Cousin Vinny.

Thetagirl218 08-26-2008 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by PhoenixAzul (Post 1705863)
I don't get it...that sister was obviously worthy enough to be admitted to membership. Like it or not, she's part of the face of the sorority, even if the face has a stud in it. Shouldn't we be showing PNM's the real sorority, not some whitewashed version of it?

Now, if we're talking about girls who get really anxious about having to talk to strangers or make a mean cheese cake, surely they can be re-assigned to support tasks because, hey, someone's gotta do it. But relegating a girl because she's got a piercing or a tattoo? Doesn't sit right with me. She's good enough to wear letters the other 51 weeks out of the year...my thing is I worry about this going further into issues of weight and appearance, which is counter productive to the goals of building women's self confidence and teamwork.

I could not have said this better! These are active sisters, not PNMs we are talking about! They are part of your sorority! They are the face of your sorority! Stop trying to hide them!

bevinpiphi 08-26-2008 09:07 PM

We have a girl with piercings, punk hair, and several tattoos.
She's an awesome sister, and one of our best recruiters.

Tippiechick 08-26-2008 09:45 PM

Some people just aren't cut out for recruiting and will do anything to get out of it.

Take me, for example... I can't formal rush for shit. Hate it with a fucking passion. It drains me. I don't have tact-- I just say it. And, if a girl is being a little bitch, I can't take it. I actually asked a girl one time, "Do you have a problem?" when she kept being bitchy and not wanting to talk. (She was a multiple legacy to another chapter that ended up cutting her...)

I would rather be the one handing out the food and watching pnm's reactions/body movements in response to skits/conversations, etc.

Now, COB? I rock the house. I personally brought around 10 girls in one semester who were given a bid. But, I knew those girls. That's just my style.

But, if you're asking about putting people out-of-sight? I've never seen it happen with my sorority. Even us behind-the-scenes people were watching/listening/out there.

Munchkin03 08-26-2008 09:58 PM

I agree with Tippie.

For what it's worth, the WORST girl in my sorority (stealing people's stuff, taking other sisters' identities) was one of the best rushers.

SWTXBelle 08-26-2008 10:01 PM

It's like many other skills - you can usually achieve a certain competence with work, but some people are just gifted, and able to do it well with relative ease.
I think a successful sorority knows to utilize the many different talents and gifts of its members - let those who can recruit well shine doing that, and let others (like Tippie in formal rush) work in support roles.

preciousjeni 08-26-2008 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 1706004)
taking other sisters' identities

:eek::eek::eek:

AXi1257 08-26-2008 10:51 PM

Don't we just put the 'big' girls in the kitchen and the not so pretty girls behind closed doors? :D

SassyPantsAGD 08-27-2008 02:54 AM

In my opinion...

Recruitment is about making connections and conversation...

I have personally had members who were not great with conversation and often those members requested to serve recruitment in other fashions such as serving drinks or floating to leave the women who were great at having conversation with PNMs...

As far as dress, most recruitment chairs set a standard for dress code for events for Formal Recruitment and CORs. If they don't follow those...they go home and change or suck up a fine.

We actually had to do this to someone who accidentally wore the wrong kind of shoe. True accidents happen but the people who would intentionally break the dress codes would have a door opened up.

Your sisterhood is your sisterhood...if you asked them to become a member...no matter what they are a part. Find out what tasks they feel the most comfortable with.

WhiteDaisy128 08-27-2008 06:58 AM

I was asked not to sing! Haha! When we were all signing for door songs, I just ruined it! Yep, I am THAT bad at singing. So I just mouthed the words! haha, but I didn't take offense to it. I just enjoyed my sisters talents!

33girl 08-27-2008 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteDaisy128 (Post 1706145)
I was asked not to sing! Haha! When we were all signing for door songs, I just ruined it! Yep, I am THAT bad at singing. So I just mouthed the words! haha, but I didn't take offense to it. I just enjoyed my sisters talents!

Ha ha, this sounds like my big. She was asked not to sing during Greek Sing because she couldn't carry a tune in a bucket.

I always thought I was horrible at formal rush, but looking back, I maybe didn't suck as much as I thought I did.

Munchkin03 08-27-2008 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AXi1257 (Post 1706023)
Don't we just put the 'big' girls in the kitchen and the not so pretty girls behind closed doors? :D

'Cause they'll eat all the finger sandwiches.

SigKapCoug 08-27-2008 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteDaisy128 (Post 1706145)
I was asked not to sing! Haha! When we were all signing for door songs, I just ruined it! Yep, I am THAT bad at singing. So I just mouthed the words! haha, but I didn't take offense to it. I just enjoyed my sisters talents!

I pretend to clap because, for the life of me, I cannot figure out how to clap on beat. I just can't do it! I always tell the younger girls not to watch me (fake) clap because then they'll be off too! lol!

BetteDavisEyes 08-27-2008 04:55 PM

During rush school, I was great! When it came to the real thing, I begged to work in the kitchen or somewhere else b/c I was comfortable talking to the girls I knew but not the new ones. It worked out fine for me b/c I was made into a rover so I just walked around, made sure everyone had drinks, smiled, introduced myself and kept busy. I didn't have to make small talk all day. :)

Elephant Walk 08-27-2008 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 1706389)
'Cause they'll eat all the finger sandwiches.

Every year around football intramurals, certain sororities pull out these linebacker sized girls that they stuff into closets and tell 'em not to wear their letter shirts during the school year to whoop up some girls. I'm pretty sure they're pledged solely due to their ability to bench press a car.

KSUViolet06 08-27-2008 05:51 PM

As an active I was pretty good at formal recruitment. It's odd because I joined through COB and was so nervous about doing FR that fall.

The one thing I was not good at was singing during Pref. I was that girl who mouthed the words.

APhiAnna 08-27-2008 09:59 PM

To PhoenixAzul, I don't think it's so much being ashamed of members but rather understanding who the best reruiters are. If I remember correctly, you are a member of a local at a non-competitive school which probably explains the confusion. At larger, competitive schools it's not just competitive for the PNMs to get the chapters they want...it's also competitive for the chapters to get certain PNMs. Therefore some sisters are more effective recruiters than others and they are utilized more. I feel it's a by-product of frills recruitment...you want every advantage you can get.

I don't think this has nearly as much to do with looks as it does with conversation. We have several girls that have such incredible social skills that they can have effective conversations with everybody...they could make just about anybody feel like they had just met their long-lost twin. We also had drop-dead gorgeous girls who, although fun at chapter events, were shy or came off as stuck-up when recruiting women.

I think in more competitive recruitments the chapters have to work as a team...certain members are stellar recruiters and can convince star PNMs to join, certain members are extremely talented and can be utilized in skits, some are super organized and are a God-send behind the scenes, etc. It has nothing to do with their "worth" in the chapter.

Munchkin03 10-19-2008 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by preciousjeni (Post 1706018)
:eek::eek::eek:

Yeah, she's tried to Facebook-friend me like, 6 times in the past year. I keep on hitting "Ignore," she keeps on doing it. Now should I block her?


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