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Luz 03-14-2007 05:35 PM
Graduate Options
 
Hi, I'm an independent at USD and I really regret not going greek. I graduate in May and then it's off to grad school. I was curious if anyone knew of any greek options for grad students. Is there such a thing?

Unregistered- 03-14-2007 05:42 PM
Some NPC sororities allow graduate students to be undergraduate members. You'll need to contact the sororities' HQs of the orgs that are at your grad school.

Still, even if the HQ allows it, doesn't mean the chapter will.

KSUViolet06 03-14-2007 06:05 PM
I believe the co-ed service organization Alpha Phi Omega does.

AUDeltaGam 03-14-2007 08:38 PM
As someone who will be graduating from grad school in a few months (thank God!), you really need to see how your program is going to be first. I know that I sometimes never have time to sit and catch my breath, let alone pledge a sorority. Your education is important, and I would keep in mind that grad school and pledging a sorority are both MAJOR time commitments! ;)

Dionysus 03-14-2007 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1413132)
I believe the co-ed service organization Alpha Phi Omega does.
Yes. I'm a grad student in APhiO, and we had several of them in the past.

Luz 03-16-2007 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1413116)
Some NPC sororities allow graduate students to be undergraduate members. You'll need to contact the sororities' HQs of the orgs that are at your grad school.

Still, even if the HQ allows it, doesn't mean the chapter will.
Very true. Thanks so much to everyone who replied! :D I appreciate the info and it's nice to know there's hope for us old folks yet. (no offense intended) From what I've seen we have a great greek community here and I wish I had discovered that fact earlier. Hindsight's 20/20 I guess. :o

dgdramadawg 03-16-2007 10:49 PM
I agree with AUDeltaGam, based on my experience. But it would probably depend on your program and how quickly you wanted to graduate. If you are going through an intensive 1-year Masters program (I know these are offered in a variety of fields), you probably won't have the time (I didn't). If you are going through a lengthier program or that didn't require as many classes per semester or any outside stuff like internships, you might have more time.

Have fun at graduate school! And if you get a chance to experience Greek life while there, all the better!

Guest1 03-16-2007 11:42 PM
Do a search...
 
There are a lot of threads on this topic that you may find helpful :)

Luz 03-17-2007 02:46 PM
I'm working on the search- can't seem to filter out all the random chit chat yet. >.< Any suggestions on search terms? Good point on the time issue. I'm staring down the barrel of at least a 2 and a half year program (go sciences!). To be, specific a geology/environmental science program at Iowa State University. Since we've only been able to make one actual visit there any I'd be interested in any experiences with the school or area. Thanks again all!

dgdramadawg 03-17-2007 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Luz (Post 1414487)
I'm working on the search- can't seem to filter out all the random chit chat yet. >.< Any suggestions on search terms? Good point on the time issue. I'm staring down the barrel of at least a 2 and a half year program (go sciences!). To be, specific a geology/environmental science program at Iowa State University. Since we've only been able to make one actual visit there any I'd be interested in any experiences with the school or area. Thanks again all!
Why not contact ISU's Greek Life Office to ask about options for grad students on campus? They will probably be able to tell you whether grad students go through rush with any frequency at that campus. According to their website, they have 15 chapters and they have information posted about informal (instead of formal) recruitment.

Luz 03-17-2007 05:32 PM
The sad thing is that I did email someone from ISU greek life a ways back (> 1 mo.) and never got a reply. Kinda frustrating. How long should one wait before sending another or should I at all? Just hope I didn't come off sounding like a total (for lack of a better word) dork. >.< lol

Buttonz 03-17-2007 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Luz (Post 1414538)
The sad thing is that I did email someone from ISU greek life a ways back (> 1 mo.) and never got a reply. Kinda frustrating. How long should one wait before sending another or should I at all? Just hope I didn't come off sounding like a total (for lack of a better word) dork. >.< lol
Is there a number for you to call?

DreamfulSpirit 03-19-2007 02:54 PM
my sorority, Omega Phi Alpha, allows students who are grad students to pledge.

Luz 03-21-2007 06:05 PM
So I called greek life who gave me the email of someone else to contact. Course she's the prospective member liason so that makes sense. :) I emailed her and hopefully I'll get an answer soon. *Crosses fingers*

AChiOhSnap 03-21-2007 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Luz (Post 1416697)
So I called greek life who gave me the email of someone else to contact. Course she's the prospective member liason so that makes sense. :) I emailed her and hopefully I'll get an answer soon. *Crosses fingers*

Is your contact someone from an individual sorority chapter or someone from panhel/greek life office? I'm confused.

Luz 03-22-2007 08:45 AM
I kinda got the impression from the guy I talked to that it was one of the staff, but she's not on the staff list for Greek Life. I'm pretty sure Panhel. and not any individual chapter. Sorry about that. Being patient is hard. lol

AlphaFrog 03-22-2007 08:54 AM
You could always....

No, wait, I can't bring myself to go there.:p

PhiRhoSister 03-23-2007 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Luz (Post 1414487)
I'm working on the search- can't seem to filter out all the random chit chat yet. >.< Any suggestions on search terms? Good point on the time issue. I'm staring down the barrel of at least a 2 and a half year program (go sciences!). To be, specific a geology/environmental science program at Iowa State University. Since we've only been able to make one actual visit there any I'd be interested in any experiences with the school or area. Thanks again all!
Phi Sigma Rho Sorority accepts graduate students and would be a good fit for someone in a geology/environmental science grad program. However, we do not have a chapter at Iowa State yet :) .

But, Alpha Sigma Kappa is at Iowa State. I am not sure if they accept grad students, but there used to be a few sisters on GreekChat and there is a ASK forum that you could post to. You could also contact the chapter directly; the webpage is at
www.stuorg.iastate.edu/ask/

Stellabellax0x0 03-26-2007 06:02 PM
Transfer with a bachelor's degree?
 
Hi all,

I am transferring to a school where I've heard a lot of transfer juniors go through recruitment. The problem is, I will have completed my first degree by the end of this semester and will be pursuing a second bachelor's at that school. Do you think this will cause any problems? I would really like to be part of greek life but I am worried that the new school won't let me go through recruitment because I have a BA already. I will be 22 years old and in junior standing in the fall. I tried to contact the greek life office many times but they never return my call or respond to my emails so please help~:(

Unregistered- 03-26-2007 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Stellabellax0x0 (Post 1418822)
Hi all,

I am transferring to a school where I've heard a lot of transfer juniors go through recruitment. The problem is, I will have completed my first degree by the end of this semester and will be pursuing a second bachelor's at that school. Do you think this will cause any problems? I would really like to be part of greek life but I am worried that the new school won't let me go through recruitment because I have a BA already. I will be 22 years old and in junior standing in the fall. I tried to contact the greek life office many times but they never return my call or respond to my emails so please help~:(
If it's NPC membership you're interested in, some NPC sororities will not extend membership at the collegiate level to women who already hold a Bachelor's Degree. There are a few who do. Do some research and find out if the sororities at your school even allow graduate membership. The search function here might also be helpful.

Additionally, pay close attention to the 2nd post of this thread.

Even if you're allowed to participate in recruitment, whether or not you'll actually receive a bid is an entirely different matter.

carolm7878 03-26-2007 07:34 PM
Re:
 
At my school, you're allowed to rush and pledge as a second degree student. One of the girls that went through recruitment this semester was a second degree who graduated from another college. She got a bid from another chapter

Luz 03-27-2007 02:57 PM
I just got my official acceptance letter to ISU!!!! Yeah, I'd been expecting it but it's still exciting. I'm so ready to move! Still waiting on an answer from greek life. Patience is becoming my mantra. lol :D

irishpipes 03-27-2007 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by carolm7878 (Post 1418849)
At my school, you're allowed to rush and pledge as a second degree student. One of the girls that went through recruitment this semester was a second degree who graduated from another college. She got a bid from another chapter
The school can dictate that a PNM is allowed to go through recruitment, but the individual sorority determines whether or not a PNM can pledge. Your school cannot tell an NPC group that they can pledge a second degree student if it is against their international policy.

Stellabellax0x0 03-27-2007 07:48 PM
Hi all,

thanks for the responses! hell a lot quicker than my new school office of greek life. I asked around the sorority members at my school and they all say they don't really know and that they never had such case. It definitely discourages me to go through recruitment.

Unregistered- 03-27-2007 08:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by carolm7878 (Post 1418849)
At my school, you're allowed to rush and pledge as a second degree student. One of the girls that went through recruitment this semester was a second degree who graduated from another college. She got a bid from another chapter
I don't know how big Greek Life is at whatever SUNY school you're at, but just because the 2nd degree student was able to pledge on your campus doesn't mean that the OP will be able to do the same at ISU.

And to reference the thread you started, even if your PHC says okay, it doesn't mean squat if HQ says no.

Luz 03-28-2007 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1419315)
I don't know how big Greek Life is at whatever SUNY school you're at, but just because the 2nd degree student was able to pledge on your campus doesn't mean that the OP will be able to do the same at ISU.

And to reference the thread you started, even if your PHC says okay, it doesn't mean squat if HQ says no.
Ok, I wasn't sure who this was in response to so I just wanted to say that while I know it's HQ and chapters final say, I would like greek life's go ahead and maybe even rush- since I can't think of any better way to meet and get to know all the chapters without seeming like I'm "shopping". Does that seem out of the question? And yes, I realize the probability of getting a bid is very low and I'm prepared for it. However, I would prefer to be active before alumna (I'm not banking on AI or anything-staying out of that argument) if that's possible. And nothing is going to happen if I don't get myself out there. That's why I've approached greek life even though they really have nothing to say about it. Hope that clears it up a lil! :)

TheEpitome1920 03-28-2007 09:16 AM
NPHC organizations have Graduate/Alumnae/Alumni chapters for men and women who already have bachelors degrees. They are associated with cities/areas instead of particular colleges.

Senusret I 03-28-2007 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by TheEpitome1920 (Post 1419492)
NPHC organizations have Graduate/Alumnae/Alumni chapters for men and women who already have bachelors degrees. They are associated with cities/areas instead of particular colleges.
Awwww this is what I missed most about your absence. :) Your presence makes me less snarky.

AlphaFrog 03-28-2007 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Luz (Post 1419489)
Ok, I wasn't sure who this was in response to so I just wanted to say that while I know it's HQ and chapters final say, I would like greek life's go ahead and maybe even rush- since I can't think of any better way to meet and get to know all the chapters without seeming like I'm "shopping". Does that seem out of the question? And yes, I realize the probability of getting a bid is very low and I'm prepared for it. However, I would prefer to be active before alumna (I'm not banking on AI or anything-staying out of that argument) if that's possible. And nothing is going to happen if I don't get myself out there. That's why I've approached greek life even though they really have nothing to say about it. Hope that clears it up a lil! :)
Even if you went through rush, fell in love with an org (and they fell in love with you), and their Inter/National disallows active membership, you could still be involved with the chapter - either by participating in socials/philanthropic events that they invite you to, or as an advisor (I know my org has spots for advisors who are not members of a Greek org - there might be others as well). I know you would miss out on the ritual aspect, but if you do get involved with an org that way, it would make you a more viable AI candidate for a lot of orgs...and it would eliminate the "shopping".

Please don't misunderstand - I'm not saying that you should go through rush for the sole purpose of trying to AI later...you should still go into rush with an open mind and with the possibility of being an active sister, but knowing that your options are limited.

TheEpitome1920 03-28-2007 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1419500)
Awwww this is what I missed most about your absence. :) Your presence makes me less snarky.
LOL! It's all for you babe!

AChiOhSnap 03-28-2007 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1419503)
Please don't misunderstand - I'm not saying that you should go through rush for the sole purpose of trying to AI later...you should still go into rush with an open mind and with the possibility of being an active sister, but knowing that your options are limited.
This is good advice, Luz. You'll never know what might happen unless you go through recruitment, so if you go and have a great time that's beneficial in and of itself. The worst that could happen is that you're not able to be placed due to your status, and the best is that you could end up having lots of fun and find a chapter that's perfect for you.

And please don't mistake aspects of the AI argument about shopping as applicable to your situation...undergraduate sorority recruitment is really all about looking around for a chapter that mutually benefits both you and the active sisters. Trust us, nobody would think you're "shopping" unless your sole intention is to go through undergraduate recruitment as a way of researching chapters you'd like to contact for potential AI (which you're obviously not doing :) ) Good luck, keep an open mind and thick skin, and you'll have a great time. Keep us updated.

Stellabellax0x0 03-28-2007 11:02 AM
Luz, I am in pretty much the same situation as you. I graduate this May then off to my new school for another degree. When I always new I didn't like my major I stuck it out for little too long so it was better to just finish it up then start a new thing. I want to go through recruitment for the same reason you're doing it - to meet new people and possibly become actively involved with greek life. I rushed and received a bid from a sorority at my old school (that I'm currently enrolled in), but my parents were so strongly against the idea and I had no financial means to join without their help. It just has been that one regret I've always had ever since and I figured it is, after all, better late than never. I know my chances are slim even if I was alllowed to rush, I would rather have tried than never have done it at all.

Luz 03-29-2007 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by AChiOhSnap (Post 1419539)
This is good advice, Luz. You'll never know what might happen unless you go through recruitment, so if you go and have a great time that's beneficial in and of itself. The worst that could happen is that you're not able to be placed due to your status, and the best is that you could end up having lots of fun and find a chapter that's perfect for you.

And please don't mistake aspects of the AI argument about shopping as applicable to your situation...undergraduate sorority recruitment is really all about looking around for a chapter that mutually benefits both you and the active sisters. Trust us, nobody would think you're "shopping" unless your sole intention is to go through undergraduate recruitment as a way of researching chapters you'd like to contact for potential AI (which you're obviously not doing :) ) Good luck, keep an open mind and thick skin, and you'll have a great time. Keep us updated.
Rawr, I can't the hang of just quoting a few lines! >.< sorry. I got worried when I read some of the AI threads and I'm glad that I've succeeded in making it clear that's not my intent. Thank you all for the encouragement and advice- it's really appreciated. And like you've said, if I go into it with my only expectation being that I'm going to meet a ton of fantastic women and have a great time, then I'll get exactly what I expected and not be disappointed. :D At this point I'd be happy with just a [timely] answer and an opportunity. I'll post when I hear something.:)

Luz 04-03-2007 05:27 PM
:D :D Just got word, indirectly but still word, that I'm allowed to go through formal recruitment this fall if I so choose. Hallelujah!!! August seems so far off now... lol :)


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