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SilverTurtle 09-12-2004 08:56 PM

How should you vote
 
A friend sent me this link:

http://selectsmart.com/president/

It asks a few questions about policy, and you can rank how important each is to you, and then it matches you with each candidate and how much you agree with them. She said she was surprised by her answers.. I wasn't at all with mine.

Thought some of you might be interested :)

edited to fix the link

The1calledTKE 09-12-2004 09:09 PM

1. Your ideal theoretical candidate. (100%) Click here for info
2. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (98%) Click here for info
3. Bush, President George W. - Republican (26%) Click here for info

SilverTurtle 09-12-2004 09:15 PM

Oh, I forgot to post my results:


Your Results:

1. Your ideal theoretical candidate. (100%) Click here for info
2. Cobb, David - Green Party (87%) Click here for info
3. Nader, Ralph - Independent (87%) Click here for info
4. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (70%) Click here for info
5. Brown, Walt - Socialist Party (70%) Click here for info
6. Badnarik, Michael - Libertarian (36%) Click here for info
7. Peroutka, Michael - Constitution Party (13%) Click here for info
8. Bush, President George W. - Republican (1%) Click here for info

AlphaSigOU 09-12-2004 09:21 PM

1. Your ideal theoretical candidate. (100%)
2. Bush, President George W. - Republican (52%)
3. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (52%)

Peaches-n-Cream 09-12-2004 09:34 PM

1.Â_Your ideal theoretical candidate. Â_Â_(100%)Â_Â_Click here for info

2.Â_Cobb, David - Green Party Â_Â_(59%)Â_Â_Click here for info

3.Â_Brown, Walt - Socialist Party Â_Â_(44%)Â_Â_Click here for info

4.Â_Nader, Ralph - Independent Â_Â_(44%)Â_Â_Click here for info

5.Â_Bush, President George W. - Republican Â_Â_(38%)Â_Â_Click here for info

6.Â_Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat Â_Â_(35%)Â_Â_Click here for info

7.Â_Badnarik, Michael - Libertarian Â_Â_(26%)Â_Â_Click here for info

8.Â_Peroutka, Michael - Constitution Party Â_Â_(26%)Â_Â_Click here for info

I must say that I am pretty surprised. :eek:

jwright25 09-12-2004 10:10 PM

1._
Your ideal theoretical candidate. __(100%)__Click here for info

2._
Bush, President George W. - Republican __(91%)__Click here for info

3._
Badnarik, Michael - Libertarian __(55%)__Click here for info

4._
Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat __(40%)__Click here for info

5._
Peroutka, Michael - Constitution Party __(37%)__Click here for info

6._
Cobb, David - Green Party __(9%)__Click here for info

7._
Nader, Ralph - Independent __(9%)__Click here for info

8._
Brown, Walt - Socialist Party __(6%)__Click here for info

RACooper 09-12-2004 10:20 PM

Interesting to say the least... much like the site I posted for the Canadian elections earlier this year...

Well here are the results :)
1. Your ideal theoretical candidate. (100%)
2. Clark, Retired General Wesley K., AR - Democrat (73%)
3. Moseley-Braun, Former Senator Carol, IL - Democrat (70%)
4. Dean, Gov. Howard, VT - Democrat (69%)
5. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (67%)
6. Gephardt, Rep. Dick, MO - Democrat (65%)
7. Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat (63%)
8. Lieberman, Senator Joe, CT - Democrat (37%)
9. Bush, President George W. - Republican (23%)

I was interested to see that Wesley Clark scored so high; I always liked him from the impression he made on many programs before he entered the race.

I was also interested to see how closely my responses compared to other Canadians, Britons, or Australians - and ultimately how theose responses compared to the "average" American response.

All in all an interesting site - I was greatly impressed by the ability to examine the demographics for the responses.

Optimist Prime 09-12-2004 11:16 PM

Your Results:

1. Your ideal theoretical candidate. (66%) Click here for info
2. Brown, Walt - Socialist Party (76%) Click here for info
3. Cobb, David - Green Party (74%) Click here for info
4. Nader, Ralph - Independent (70%) Click here for info
5. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (67%) Click here for info
6. Badnarik, Michael - Libertarian (28%) Click here for info
7. Bush, President George W. - Republican (26%) Click here for info
8. Peroutka, Michael - Constitution Party (14%) Click here for info

chideltjen 09-13-2004 02:07 AM

1. Your ideal theoretical candidate. (100%) Click here for info
2. Cobb, David - Green Party (81%) Click here for info
3. Nader, Ralph - Independent (81%) Click here for info
4. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (73%) Click here for info
5. Brown, Walt - Socialist Party (68%) Click here for info
6. Badnarik, Michael - Libertarian (37%) Click here for info
7. Bush, President George W. - Republican (13%) Click here for info
8. Peroutka, Michael - Constitution Party (8%) Click here for info

jharb 09-13-2004 02:09 AM

Jesus is voting for John Kerry!

Kevin 09-13-2004 07:37 AM

1. Theoretical Candidate (100%)
2. Badnarik, Michael - Libertarian (68%)
3. Bush, President George W. - Republican (64%)
4. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (47%)
5. Peroutka, Michael - Constitution Party (27%)
6. Cobb, David - Green Party (23%)
7. Nader, Ralph - Independent (23%)
8. Brown, Walt - Socialist Party (13%)

IowaStatePhiPsi 09-13-2004 08:19 AM

Interesting- I think because of where my concerns with the government are right now that that skews where some candidates are on this list. Case in point: I despise Nader but he ranked higher than Badnarik, whom I would vote for if I lived in solid Kerry-state.
Dean ranked 3rd for candidates which doesnt surprise me since I worked for him for 6 months.

Your Results:
1. Your ideal theoretical candidate. (100%)
2. Cobb, David - Green Party (88%)
3. Nader, Ralph - Independent (81%)
4. Dean, Gov. Howard, VT - Democrat (79%)
5. Brown, Walt - Socialist Party (77%)
6. Clark, Retired General Wesley K., AR - Democrat (76%)
7. Kucinich, Rep. Dennis, OH - Democrat (76%)
8. Sharpton, Reverend Al - Democrat (74%)
9. Moseley-Braun, Former Senator Carol, IL - Democrat (66%)
10. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (62%)
11. Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat (62%)
12. Gephardt, Rep. Dick, MO - Democrat (54%)
13. LaRouche, Lyndon H. Jr. - Democrat (44%)
14. Lieberman, Senator Joe, CT - Democrat (35%)
15. Badnarik, Michael - Libertarian (35%)
16. Peroutka, Michael - Constitution Party (17%)
17. Bush, President George W. - Republican (13%)
18. Hagelin, Dr. John - Natural Law (11%)

DWAlphaGam 09-13-2004 03:24 PM

Interesting site!

1. Your ideal theoretical candidate. (100%) Click here for info
2. Cobb, David - Green Party (90%) Click here for info
3. Nader, Ralph - Independent (90%) Click here for info
4. Brown, Walt - Socialist Party (75%) Click here for info
5. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (67%) Click here for info
6. Badnarik, Michael - Libertarian (34%) Click here for info
7. Peroutka, Michael - Constitution Party (17%) Click here for info
8. Bush, President George W. - Republican (1%) Click here for info



Hahaha, W only got 1%! ;)

KSigkid 09-14-2004 10:11 AM

Good stuff...here's my "choices"

1. Your ideal theoretical candidate. (100%)
2. Bush, President George W. - Republican (68%)
3. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (58%)
4. Badnarik, Michael - Libertarian (50%)
5. Brown, Walt - Socialist Party (33%)
6. Cobb, David - Green Party (28%)
7. Nader, Ralph - Independent (28%)
8. Peroutka, Michael - Constitution Party (15%)

_Opi_ 09-14-2004 10:21 AM

. Your ideal theoretical candidate. (100%) Click here for info
2. Cobb, David - Green Party (74%) Click here for info
3. Nader, Ralph - Independent (74%) Click here for info
4. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (67%) Click here for info
5. Brown, Walt - Socialist Party (57%) Click here for info
6. Badnarik, Michael - Libertarian (40%) Click here for info
7. Bush, President George W. - Republican (17%) Click here for info
8. Peroutka, Michael - Constitution Party (14%) Click here for info

PhiPsiRuss 09-14-2004 11:54 AM

Your Results:

1. Your ideal theoretical candidate (100%)
2. Badnarik, Michael - Libertarian (72%)
3. Bush, President George W. - Republican (56%)
4. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (48%)
5. Cobb, David - Green Party (34%)
6. Nader, Ralph - Independent (34%)
7. Brown, Walt - Socialist Party (24%)
8. Peroutka, Michael - Constitution Party (19%)

Rudey 09-14-2004 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake
Do they feel that the President of the US effects their lives more than the PM of Canada?
Maybe.

-Rudey

RACooper 09-14-2004 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake
Do they feel that the President of the US effects their lives more than the PM of Canada?
Hey it's always smart to keep an eye on your neighboor, especially when they're gun-happy.

Or... as former Primer Minister Pierre Trudeau put it:
"Living next to you," Trudeau told an American audience in a speech to the National Press Club in 1969, "is like sleeping with an elephant; no matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, one is affected by every twitch and grunt."

We just want to know how heavy a sleeper the elephant is going to be for the next four years.

Rudey 09-14-2004 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RACooper
Hey it's always smart to keep an eye on your neighboor, especially when they're gun-happy.

Or... as former Primer Minister Pierre Trudeau put it:
"Living next to you," Trudeau told an American audience in a speech to the National Press Club in 1969, "is like sleeping with an elephant; no matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, one is affected by every twitch and grunt."

We just want to know how heavy a sleeper the elephant is going to be for the next four years.

There's a difference between keeping an eye and basically wanting to be us and voting in our election/interfering.

-Rudey
--Nice try and justifying it though.

RACooper 09-14-2004 01:06 PM

Actually I thought you'd love the reference to another time when Canadian and American relations became strained over another controversal conflict or difference in foreign policy.

Seriously though I have as much desire to be an American as I do to castrate myself... much as I'm sure your feelings would be about becoming a Canadian... patriotism is great as long as you don't use it as a stick to beat others with; nor does love of ones country forbid you from taking an interest in others ;)

Rudey 09-14-2004 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RACooper
Actually I thought you'd love the reference to another time when Canadian and American relations became strained over another controversal conflict or difference in foreign policy.

Seriously though I have as much desire to be an American as I do to castrate myself... much as I'm sure your feelings would be about becoming a Canadian... patriotism is great as long as you don't use it as a stick to beat others with; nor does love of ones country forbid you from taking an interest in others ;)

So in other words you can't keep yourself from interfering and are jealous of America since Canadais but a mouse next to an elephant. OK got it.

-Rudey

Kevin 09-14-2004 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RACooper
Actually I thought you'd love the reference to another time when Canadian and American relations became strained over another controversal conflict or difference in foreign policy.

Seriously though I have as much desire to be an American as I do to castrate myself... much as I'm sure your feelings would be about becoming a Canadian... patriotism is great as long as you don't use it as a stick to beat others with; nor does love of ones country forbid you from taking an interest in others ;)

What you say is fair. America's politics do have a huge influence on Canada. It's inescapable. Especially since NAFTA.

I can see what Coop is saying here though. It's legitimate. Interfering is different from having an opinion. I think that so far, he's just a Canadian with an opinion.

Rudey 09-14-2004 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake
What you say is fair. America's politics do have a huge influence on Canada. It's inescapable. Especially since NAFTA.

I can see what Coop is saying here though. It's legitimate. Interfering is different from having an opinion. I think that so far, he's just a Canadian with an opinion.

He's done more than have an opinion. He doesn't just post on an issue, he comes into a thread about the election and posts (often propaghanda, inaccuracies, and lies that I've refuted myself). He even takes a little quiz to show who he would vote for. That is not just offering an opinion.

-Rudey

Kevin 09-14-2004 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
He's done more than have an opinion. He doesn't just post on an issue, he comes into a thread about the election and posts. He even takes a little quiz to show who he would vote for. That is not just offering an opinion.

-Rudey

It's a message board. It's hard to really define anything anyone does here as more than just expressing an opinion.

It is a fact though that he can't vote. I thank him for his opinion. But it really holds no weight with me -- and I hope most Americans agree with that statement. I'm sure he won't lose any sleep over that either.

Rudey 09-14-2004 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake
It's a message board. It's hard to really define anything anyone does here as more than just expressing an opinion.

It is a fact though that he can't vote. I thank him for his opinion. But it really holds no weight with me -- and I hope most Americans agree with that statement. I'm sure he won't lose any sleep over that either.

Fine. And it's my opinion that his country hasn't got the global power and influence of America which he longs for and it's my opinion that he is trying to interfere. Now if you're waiting for him to steal votes from a ballot in America then you're judging by different standards. Oh and let's not confuse facts with opinions - he tries to pass off lies and opinions as facts (to interfere) and I've called him on it repeatedly.

-Rudey

Rudey 09-14-2004 01:33 PM

1. Your ideal theoretical candidate. (100%) Click here for info
2. Bush, President George W. - Republican (63%) Click here for info
3. Badnarik, Michael - Libertarian (60%) Click here for info
4. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (47%) Click here for info
5. Peroutka, Michael - Constitution Party (25%) Click here for info
6. Cobb, David - Green Party (16%) Click here for info
7. Nader, Ralph - Independent (16%) Click here for info
8. Brown, Walt - Socialist Party (11%) Click here for info

-Rudey

_Opi_ 09-14-2004 02:00 PM

Last time I checked, I was a U.S. resident and living in the U.S.


So Rudey, mind your own!

and ktsnake, yes, the President of the US effects my life more here than thePM of Canada.

Rudey 09-14-2004 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by _Opi_
Last time I checked, I was a U.S. resident and living in the U.S.


So Rudey, mind your own!

and ktsnake, yes, the President of the US effects my life more here than thePM of Canada.

Last time I checked you are not a US citizen and have no say in US elections since you are not allowed to vote. You are a Canadian citizen and can vote in Canadian elections. And nobody asked about your love affairs and whatnot so stop acting like somebody wanted to know your "business".

-Rudey

_Opi_ 09-14-2004 02:27 PM

Rudey,

You are one interesting human being.

and I don't mean in a good way, either.....

Rudey 09-14-2004 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by _Opi_
Rudey,

You are one interesting human being.

and I don't mean in a good way, either.....

It's fine if you want to insult me. You always do insult people when they show you're wrong. Now if you'll excuse me I will be relishing in the thought of using my power to vote in this election. Ah it is so nice to be able to vote and have a say. Ah yes.

-Rudey

_Opi_ 09-14-2004 03:16 PM

^LMAO

Rudey 09-14-2004 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by _Opi_
^LMAO
^LMFAO

-Rudey

WCUgirl 09-14-2004 03:53 PM

To bring this thread back on topic, here are my results:

1. Your ideal theoretical candidate. (100%)
2. Cobb, David - Green Party (86%)
3. Nader, Ralph - Independent (86%)
4. Moseley-Braun, Former Senator Carol, IL - Democrat (83%)
5. Clark, Retired General Wesley K., AR - Democrat (81%)
6. Brown, Walt - Socialist Party (78%)
7. Sharpton, Reverend Al - Democrat (78%)
8. Dean, Gov. Howard, VT - Democrat (73%)
9. Kucinich, Rep. Dennis, OH - Democrat (70%)
10. Gephardt, Rep. Dick, MO - Democrat (61%)
11. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (57%)
12. Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat (51%)
13. LaRouche, Lyndon H. Jr. - Democrat (40%)
14. Badnarik, Michael - Libertarian (39%)
15. Lieberman, Senator Joe, CT - Democrat (39%)
16. Peroutka, Michael - Constitution Party (24%)
17. Hagelin, Dr. John - Natural Law (22%)
18. Bush, President George W. - Republican (3%)

GeekyPenguin 09-14-2004 04:31 PM

1. Your ideal theoretical candidate. (100%)
2. Cobb, David - Green Party (92%)
3. Nader, Ralph - Independent (92%)
4. Dean, Gov. Howard, VT - Democrat (83%)
5. Moseley-Braun, Former Senator Carol, IL - Democrat (83%)
6. Clark, Retired General Wesley K., AR - Democrat (79%)
7. Sharpton, Reverend Al - Democrat (78%)
8. Kucinich, Rep. Dennis, OH - Democrat (77%)
9. Brown, Walt - Socialist Party (77%)
10. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (70%)
11. Gephardt, Rep. Dick, MO - Democrat (68%)
12. Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat (66%)
13. Lieberman, Senator Joe, CT - Democrat (43%)
14. LaRouche, Lyndon H. Jr. - Democrat (39%)
15. Badnarik, Michael - Libertarian (32%)
16. Peroutka, Michael - Constitution Party (15%)
17. Hagelin, Dr. John - Natural Law (15%)
18. Bush, President George W. - Republican (3%)

breathesgelatin 09-14-2004 08:19 PM

Your Results:

1. Your ideal theoretical candidate. (99%)
2. Cobb, David - Green Party (86%)
3. Nader, Ralph - Independent (82%)
4. Brown, Walt - Socialist Party (75%)
5. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (64%)
6. Badnarik, Michael - Libertarian (32%)
7. Bush, President George W. - Republican (16%)
8. Peroutka, Michael - Constitution Party (13%)

CatStarESP4 09-16-2004 12:44 AM

1. Cobb, David - Green Party (98%)
2. Your ideal theoretical candidate. (100%)
3. Nader, Ralph - Independent (92%)
4. Brown, Walt - Socialist Party (88%)
5. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (69%)
6. Badnarik, Michael - Libertarian (24%)
7. Peroutka, Michael - Constitution Party (15%)
8. Bush, President George W. - Republican (10%)

Kevin 09-16-2004 10:08 AM

So far, the Green Party is winning the GC election.

Kind of shows that we're not exactly a represenative sample, doesn't it? :D

breathesgelatin 09-16-2004 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake
So far, the Green Party is winning the GC election.

Kind of shows that we're not exactly a represenative sample, doesn't it? :D

Yeah.

Then again, I'm guessing that most of us who got the Green Party as #1 will not be voting Green. At least, not me!

ZTAngel 09-21-2004 10:16 AM

I just now saw this thread.

Here are my results:
1. Your ideal theoretical candidate. (100%)
2. Cobb, David - Green Party (97%)
3. Nader, Ralph - Independent (97%)
4. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (89%)
5. Brown, Walt - Socialist Party (73%)
6. Badnarik, Michael - Libertarian (28%)
7. Peroutka, Michael - Constitution Party (15%)
8. Bush, President George W. - Republican (2%)

A whopping 2% for W. :)

Kevin 09-21-2004 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by breathesgelatin
Yeah.

Then again, I'm guessing that most of us who got the Green Party as #1 will not be voting Green. At least, not me!

Imagine the reaction of the Democratic party if Cobb got 20% or something of that nature. You'd see a HUGE shift overnight -- either that, or the Green party would start to emerge as a national contender.

At any rate, if folks on the left don't want the Democrats to become Junior Republicans, that's really your only option.

Look at what Kerry has had to do in order to become your candidate. He was once one of the most liberal senators in Washington, now, he has moved so far to the senator that his current positions don't even vaguely resemble his positions before the primaries were decided.

And it's not like he's going to win the election anyway ;)


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