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preciousjeni 07-19-2004 04:03 PM

Printing Rituals
 
If it's not too personal, I was wondering how your organizations handle mass distribution of sensitive information? With so many hundreds of thousands of members in many orgs, do you have to send your information to printing shops?

lifesaver 07-19-2004 04:17 PM

I have heard that some orgs use a print shop owned by a member and only print copies of secret materials when they are revised. They print enough for all chapters and colonies and enough for replacements/expansions. The extras are kept in a vault.

New or replacement copies are delivered by hand (staff) and there are stiff fines for replacement. All copies of printed materials are individually numbered. The extremely sensitive information is never printed, only alluded to, and is passed down 'mouth to ear'.

Some orgs require that sensitive info be left with the advisors over the summer or left in a safe deposit box.


...but this is just what I hear.....

Diamond Delta 07-19-2004 04:35 PM

I have no idea who prints it, but I do know that most GLO's get their ritual equiptment from the same company. They do not have a catalogue and the website is very vague. You basically tellthem what you want and draw it up and they make it just for you. They are very good about not letting the information out. Keep all your rituals numbered and make people sign them out if they are taking them out of the "Vault".

PhiPsiRuss 07-19-2004 07:54 PM

I can neither confirm, nor deny, if we print our ritual.

SAEalumnus 07-19-2004 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PhiPsiRuss
I can neither confirm, nor deny, if we print our ritual.
PhiPsiRuss: Your answer suggests your fraternity does print your ritual, but keeps this fact a secret. However, this is purely speculation on my part and we can just leave it at that.

SAE, like most other fraternities so far as I am aware, does print its ritual, but only in limited quantity. Each volume is individually numbered and apart from chapters collegiate (a limited number per chapter), chapter advisors, national and regional officers, and members of the national ritual committee (I think that about covers everybody), not just any member can get a copy for himself. These books are, naturally, published privately, thought I have no idea by whom exactly.

PhiPsiRuss 07-19-2004 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SAEalumnus
PhiPsiRuss: Your answer suggests your fraternity does print your ritual, but keeps this fact a secret. However, this is purely speculation on my part and we can just leave it at that.
I can neither confirm, nor deny, that I am suggesting anything with regard to our ritual.

Peaches-n-Cream 07-19-2004 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PhiPsiRuss
I can neither confirm, nor deny, that I am suggesting anything with regard to our ritual.
Russ, your post suggests that you do indeed have a ritual. So what do you have to say about that? Huh? Huh? :p

Tom Earp 07-19-2004 09:53 PM

Maybe doesnt know?;)

PhiPsiRuss 07-19-2004 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Peaches-n-Cream
Russ, your post suggests that you do indeed have a ritual.
I can neither confirm, nor deny that.

IowaStatePhiPsi 07-19-2004 10:56 PM

I can honestly neither confirm nor deny anything about the ritual.
Why? We're a colony and do not know anything about the supposed ritual- or even if it exists.

Kevin 07-19-2004 10:56 PM

I can neither confirm nor deny the existance of any Sigma Nu "ritual".

To what are you people referring?

AlphaSigOU 07-19-2004 11:13 PM

I can neither confirm nor deny the presence of nuclear weapons in a U.S. military installation, either! Or that the sharp-looking military aide walking a few steps behind the President is carrying the SIOP (The Single Integrated Operational Plan, the holy of holies of all military secrets, also known as the 'nuclear football'.) :)

Seriously, though, there are some fraternities and sororities that instruct their members not to reveal any detail about their ritual and secret work to anyone not a member. And that includes whether the ritual is printed or not and specific items of ritualistic regalia used in their ceremony.

My fraternity does print its ritual and issues a limited number of numbered copies to each chapter. There are certain parts that are transmitted only 'mouth to ear' and do not appear in any detail. Making copies of any part of the ritual book is strictly prohibited, even for the internal use of the chapter to practice.

The only public ceremony in which ritualistic robes are used in Alpha Sigma Phi is the Black Lantern Processional. All members wear black hooded robes except for the marshal, who wears white. All carry black Diogenes lanterns (or in a pinch, a kerosene lantern) and march in a slow, funereal cadence. Some chapters use the processional to pick up the candidates for initiation, others use it as a memorial for brothers who entered Omega chapter. There are other robe colors used in the ritual (not in the Black Lantern Processional), but obviously I am not at liberty to discuss them.

astroAPhi 07-19-2004 11:13 PM

Could you tell us if Phi Kappa Psi or Sigma Nu exist?

AlphaSigOU 07-19-2004 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by astroAPhi
Could you tell us if Phi Kappa Psi or Sigma Nu exist?
They could... but if they told ya they might hafta kill ya! ;) :) :D :p

Kevin 07-19-2004 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by astroAPhi
Could you tell us if Phi Kappa Psi or Sigma Nu exist?
I can confirm the existance of an organization known as "Sigma Nu". As to its nature and intent, I'm afraid I can neither confirm nor deny that it has any kind of nature or intent.

BabyP 07-20-2004 02:08 AM

me and the VP print from our computer or we go to kinkos and make more copies ourselves but stuff like deaf culture information not secret stuff.

KappaSigKGB 07-20-2004 08:01 AM

lets just say the question in this thread isn't going to recieve very candid answers...

Kevin 07-20-2004 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KappaSigKGB
lets just say the question in this thread isn't going to recieve very candid answers...
I can neither confirm nor deny the existance of any answers for the question that this thread raises.

KSigkid 07-20-2004 08:58 AM

Not going to get into any Kappa Sig stuff on the board, but an interesting story having to do with this:

I was talking to an alum at one of our Conclave's a couple of years ago. Seems he was in a Kinko's and saw a young woman making copies at a machine...he was waiting for the same machine so was in line behind her. She quickly made the copies and walked off quickly.

When he got to the machine, he saw that the girl had made two copies of the book, not one. The book happened to be a ritual book of a pretty well-known fraternity. He ended up calling a brother of that fraternity that he knew and giving him the copy.

Just goes to show the perils of written ritual and why some people know things they shouldn't.

Little E 07-20-2004 09:24 AM

I don't get why you are saying that you can't say anything. What's the point. I don't mean to start a war, but if you aren't gonna talk about your ritual, why waste the time to just say that you can't say anything. fine. you have oral or written ritual. but i don't get why you can't say it when your brothers have said which you have? anyhow.

Ritual is a tough thing for copies, i'd imagine you'd have to do it inhouse, and not use a public location. but if you are able to physically run your own copies, then it would be fine. But also remember, the average citizen doesn't give a hoot about our rituals. Most people have probably never heard of all our orgs, and then have no clue what they really do or give a damn. so maybe all up tight worry on here is worthless. i mean if you can't talk about it, don't mention it, just don't even post, but if you can, and feel comfortable, go for it. but why anyone cares about what another org stands for is beyond me. esp when you'd never be able to join, what does it matter?

KappaSigKGB 07-20-2004 09:37 AM

I think KT is trying to be clever and satirical. But ya...the joke is running a little dry there.

I'll save him the trouble of a response. Here it is:

"I can not confirm or deny the cleverness of any joke"

;)

Sister Havana 07-20-2004 11:30 AM

APO does print ritual books and they are available from the national headquarters.

PhiPsiRuss 07-20-2004 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Little E
I don't get why you are saying that you can't say anything.
I can neither confirm, nor deny, why I say anything in this thread.

SAEvini 03-11-2009 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAEalumnus (Post 793847)
PhiPsiRuss: Your answer suggests your fraternity does print your ritual, but keeps this fact a secret. However, this is purely speculation on my part and we can just leave it at that.

SAE, like most other fraternities so far as I am aware, does print its ritual, but only in limited quantity. Each volume is individually numbered and apart from chapters collegiate (a limited number per chapter), chapter advisors, national and regional officers, and members of the national ritual committee (I think that about covers everybody), not just any member can get a copy for himself. These books are, naturally, published privately, thought I have no idea by whom exactly.

Phi Alpha Bro!

pshsx1 03-13-2009 12:44 PM

I think each of our chapters gets 3 ritual books? I've never been on ritual team so I don't know for sure. But I'm pretty sure Nationals is the only one that makes them. A lot of important stuff from our ritual, though, is oral, so if someone got a hold of the ritual book, they wouldn't really get too much out of it.

Elephant Walk 03-13-2009 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAEvini (Post 1789219)
Phi Alpha Bro!

This thread was bumped because of this?

Goddamnit.

knight_shadow 03-13-2009 12:52 PM

^^^ It's almost as bad as the other thread he bumped, where he encouraged us to read every page and summarize for him.

agzg 03-13-2009 12:59 PM

At least this thread is kinda funny. :)

ciscoubr 04-12-2009 01:45 AM

My org... the national office prints the books (we've got a nice cool Xerox dohickie that makes books) and then the interns spiral bound them. Books are sent out via FedEx and numbered. But nothing really important is in the books... it's all in the mind....


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