Should a private university be able to make this type of decision?
 

Baylor Lariat

What do you guys think? Should a private religious university be able to revoke scholarships for whatever reason? It is a Christian university and all students are aware of its stance on "non-Christian" like behaviors (or what they feel are non Christian like behaviors). Should these students respect the beliefs of the private institution and simply move on without discussion or should the school be required to accept all people regardless of their sexuality, even if they don't agree?

Please note that I'm not making an argument that homosexuality is a non-Christian behavior, I'm saying that the school (leadership) feels that way.

I don't think homosexuality is a christian behavior . . but its not a behavior that bothers me.

As far as shoulds and woulds . . schools should be tolerant i agree. . .

However it is a private school . . so it has a lot of latitude on what it can do.

Homosexuality isn't a behavior...I don't think you can turn it off and on like a light switch, but...

I thought private universities could pretty much do what they darned well pleased. If that's the case, then students who choose to go there need to play by the school's rules or pick another school.

Well you don't actually have to take the dick in your mouth sweetie . . thats a personal choice :p

Unless that program is funded by a government agency, yes, Baylor has the right to that.

I would think that private schools would have the right to exclude those who would not follow their "honor code" or whatever you call it. Just look at Liberty College, and what they get away with!

(I can tell this since I'm a Baptist!)
Q: Why don't Baptists believe in having sex while standing up?
A: It may lead to dancing!

Three things about Christianity that aren't recognized:

1) Jews don't recognize Jesus as the Mesiah.
2) Protestants don't recognize the Pope as the leader of all Christians.
3) Baptists don't recognize each other in a bar.

And don't you forget it!! :D

LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!

It's Baylor's right. They are a private institution and can do whatever they damned well please.

Right or wrong in this case is for them to decide. Individuals can judge for themselves, but something tells me Baylor isn't going to be very interested in what anyone has to say.

It's a Baptist University and the Baptist church ain't the most pro-gay institution out there. Perhaps these kids should go enroll elsewhere.

I agree

I firmly believe I can take any straight girl of any religion and make her a lesbian.

-Rudey
--There...I said it.

Shouldn't the header be "three things about religion that aren't recognized" since Christianity is just a disortion of the Jewish faith?

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True, but they're very likely to lose their 501(c)(3) status (i.e. their tax exempt status....... not something they want to lose). Kind of like Bob Jones University.

LOL!



I think Baylor has this right. I also think that Notre Dame has the right to high academic standards/requirements as well. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe they are a private university because they are a Catholic school and thus would get no state funding. Therefore, they should be able to have whatever high academic standards they damn well please. I'll get off my soap box now. :)

Trying to be offensive?

I believe that when you apply to a private school and give them your money, you are agreeing to abide by "codes of conduct" or whatever the particular school calls it. Private schools have the right to set whatever they want, and aren't funded by the state, so they can pretty much do whatever they want.
I went to a private university that had a curfew. People would complain about the curfew all the time, and I would be like, "You knew it when you signed up..."

When I was a student and received my student loan, I had to sign a paper stating that I wouldn't use illegal drugs. Do you still have to do this?

Yes.

Why would they be likely to lose their 501(c)(3) status?

Come on, it's Baylor.

I'm not going to lose any sleep over this one.

Kind of odd . . . smoking pot can lose you access to student loans forever . . hacking your mama into 15 pieces won't . . . or is it any felony?

What's that supposed to mean?!

Any private university is just that ....private. That don't have to adhere to state admission they set their own set of rules and policies and that being honor codes, standard of living and ehat not.

BYU ....Morman/LDS ( however they are referred too) they set a high standard....caught living with opp sex your out of there... so they can essentially take away scholarships and what not for not following there institutions guidelines of conduct....gay straight living wiht opp sex drugs alcohol.

Just remember Scholarships are created by foundations, families, students, etc..... so those essentially can be dictated however they feel they want to run scholarships. Federal govt i truly believe gives private univ some latittude in this area .

Baylor: The blight on BigXII Football.

She says who cares because it's Baylor. I mean, no one really cares what goes on at Baylor, other than the Baptists.

BAYLOR, Why Are They In The Big XII????????

Yep if get No Govt. Funds can do their own Funky Thing!:( Still a Strong Greek School, I think!;)

PhilRuss, Damn, I am starting to Understand more and More of your posts!:cool:

You have a lot of +++++++++ Stuff To input as compared to a couple of Peeps-----R and S! DA!

Oh Got, Vat is wit hakin and Spitin, Smokin have to do with a Babtist College!????

Oh, never mind I was one of them until the Age of Three, saw Da light!

Oh Well, Each Unto theiere ownie!!:D

Well, just figure, when your feet hit the floor every day and your breathin, count your Blessings!:cool:

Private means just that, private institutions can do whatever they please. Upon enrollment, you are aware, or you should be, of the attitudes of that institution. You won't see my African behind applying to Bob Jones.

Do they receive government research grants? Tax breaks?

Do those make a difference? Should they?

There are some very wrong statements being made about private universities here. I'm not even going to try and address that.

However, as some of the above posters have stated, scholarships come from all over and can have requirements on them. I lose my scholarship if I don't keep a certain GPA and don't meet other standards that I don't feel I need to discuss here. This scholarship is not being publicly funded, and it can have whatever standards it wants to. You agree to the standards of your scholarships/grants/whatever when you sign your financial aid offer. This guy knew what he was getting into when he went to Baylor.

Exactly. I don't give a rat's ass what a Baptist college does, even if it considers itself the Yale of Texas.

Well, yeah, you are right in that there aren't a whole lot of people who care what Baylor does. However, it's Rice that thinks it is the Yale of Texas* :rolleyes: get your facts straight;)

*(or Harvard or any other school that they want to align themselves with)

LOL!!! since i went to a southern baptist high school, i am way too familiar with this. the school i went to also had a college. the college students at my school walked around like clones. it was like the twilight zone. they dont like to admit it, but if you did not come from an upright baptist home, you could kiss your chances of being accepted good bye. it is sad, but it is kind of hard to imagine that anyone who isnt baptist would want to go to that school.

I've never heard of another school say it's the "Yale of [Region]". The joke was that schools were the Harvard of wherever. They even sold shirts at Harvard that said something funny talking about that.

And Rice is a very good school. Baylor...not.

-Rudey

:( Ouch, that's not very nice

Why? It doesn't matter to me either. A Baptist school had no bearing on my life. I doubt the majority of Baptists in Texas care what my Catholic school in Wisconsin is doing.

VERY TRUE, but if I said that I didn't give a rats ass about your Catholic school in Wisconsin, you might not think that was very nice. Besides, I was talking about private schools in general, which would include yours! :D

Actually the less people from Texas think about us, the better. My least favorite person at this school is from Texas and he's lucky he's a SigEp. :mad:

I really don't care what Baylor does, though. I'd never even heard of it until GC.

I went to a baptist school.

-Rudey
--It's cool.

Ok, whatever

man, i can't believe i missed a great opportunity to bash on the Bears :D

Seriously though, yes, as a private institution or private scholarship donors, they have the right to outline whatever behavior they want from the recipient.

As far as the Baylor hate, man. Baylor may be the weak sister in the Big XII when it comes to football, but their basketball(until recently) and especially baseball programs are usually very competitive. From what i understand, their non-revenue sports are usually pretty good also.

I don't mind Baylor-ites, they're usually pretty similar to Aggies(whether they want to admit that or not), pretty conservative and usually religious.

As far as academics, all i've heard about Baylor is that if you have enough money, you can get in. But the US Army thinks highly enough of their dental school to do a lot of work with them.

Basically what i'm saying is this, you can pick on your little brother all you want, but when someone else does, its wrong. Leave us Aggies our one whipping boy :D

Kitso
KS 361