How do I find out if a chapter existed at a school in the past?
 

Ok, I was thinking how cool it would be if Kappa Delta had a chapter at the University of Southern California. While thinking about it, I started to wonder how I could find out if KD ever had a chapter there. Does anyone know how I might be able to find out if one ever existed there? I didn't see anything on the KD website and I couldn't find it on the USC website either. Where should I look?! Thanks!!!

Re: How do I find out if a chapter existed at a school in the past?
 

[whipping out my copy of Baird's Manual of American College Fraternities...]

Kappa Delta has never established a chapter at USC. There is a KD chapter at UCLA, established in 1926.

Darn it!!! I talked to some people in KD and they said that Kappa Delta is generally not opening up new chapters but trying to bring back old chapters to campuses where KD has died out. Arrrghhh....someday I'm going to get KD on the USC campus!!!!!

we had a chapter of KD at USC from 1917-1964 - the Theta Sigma chapter

Very random that you brought this up, because the yahoogroup was just compiling a list of closed chapters :)

i'd love to see a chapter at USC... we could use more Cali chapters!

I have a 1945 El Rodeo yearbook and KD is in it.

I sure hope that there was a chapter at USC, or else quite a few of the members of my AA are not KD's. Actually, they talked about re-opening the house in fall of 1987, but AI (at UCLA) burned their house the night before the presentation to USC, and KD could not afford to repair AI and re-open Theta Sigma.

DaffyKD

I think it is very fascinating to find out about where chapters of your GLO existed :)

Shortly after I initated into ADPi, I learned a chapter once existed at the university I attended before I transferred.. I thought it was really neat :)

During homecoming week, I was looking through some of the old scrapbooks that our chapter has kept at the house and found out that many sororities used to be on this campus as well including Kappa Delta, Delta Gamma, Delta Phi Epsilon and a few others. I find it really neat and wondered what the greek system was like back then :)

That's interesting. AGD closed in, I believe, the spring of 87. And Sigma Kappa came onto campus in the fall of 88. Interesting to think we could have had KD back then.

In the 45 yearbook, if I am remembering correctly, USC had about 21 chapters of NPC groups. KKG new on campus that year. Amongst the houses now at USC, KKG is still the youngest. Sigma Kappa which colonized in 88, closed in I think 94, when USC greek system's #'s declined. Several other houses also closed, but most were older than the KKG chapter.

An easy way to find out if your GLO had a chapter somewhere is to e-mail your headquarters--usually there's a "contact us" or "info@" on the website.

(That's quicker than Baird's, too -- if you're like me, one dip into Baird's means a half-hour just looking up stuff.)

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I'm so new to this! WHat is the Baird's book?

Re: ....
 

The Baird's Manual of American College Fraternities is basically an encyclopedia of American (and Canadian) college fraternities and sororities.
It is now in its 20th edition, whisch was published in 1991.

You can order a copy for $59.95 (inclussive of S/H) from the NIC at 1-317-872-1112

does anyone know if aephi is re-colonizing at USC? i heard a rumor that we might but nothing directly from national .

dormant chapter?
 

Go to your college library, ask for yearbooks. A page might well
exist for your GLO, replete with composite and pic of house. A
snynopsis of the year's activities may be included. Bear in mind that many did not get their pictures taken or did not get included in their greek house due to pure sloth. Some chapters may have had 100 with only 45 pictured...but at any rate, a source.
Your headquarters will have the data, for sure
Baird's Manual will have info., too, but few details
Your alum office may/may not have or even care.
Best bet is college yearbooks to get profile of chapter.
Best feeling: revive an old chapter, bring back those old orphaned alums. Some chapter deaths were totally uncalled for and have poignant histories. Cheers! old Teke

Actually Alpha Phi is the youngest at USC....in 1947 they were chartered I believe!! Just a tidbit from all my Alpha Phi girlies at USC!!

Well the Director of Greek Life at USC is an AEPhi and she really really has been pushing to get AEPhi back on campus since USC just opened up to expansion this past year. I haven't talked to Beth Saul (the Greek Life director) since last year when I went to USC, but I know she was really pushing for AGG (my local jewish sorority) to become a part of AEPhi and for AEPhi to return to campus (they were there in the late nineties).

What can I do to encourage the re-opening of Theta Sigma? Since I'm taking time off of school I definitely have time to devote to this cause but I don't know what to do!! Should I talk to our CDC? Email someone? Thanks in advance for any advice!!

Do you belong to KD and a local? How does that work out?

ooh its very exciting to hear we are working on getting a chapter there - its a great school!! is alpha gamma gamma seriously considering it?


also i am also really curious about how belonging to a national and a local social sorority worked. when i first saw your signature I figured Alpha Gamma Gamma was a honorary/ professional GLO. What would have happened if your local had affiliated with AEPhi while you were still a member. I am very curious because we were going to try to encourage one the locals at a nearby campus to affiliate with AEPhi but we didn't even bother when we found out that some of their actives had disaffiliated from two of the nationals on campus. we figured that would make it impossible for them to affiliate with us until those members became alumnae.

Well, I used to attend the University of Southern California. At that school, I was a member of Alpha Gamma Gamma, a local jewish sorority. I was extremely involved with it, on exec board and very dedicated to them. However, due to a whole range of problems (USC is 35k per year and I was going to lose my scholarship because of my grades, and I was having medical problems) I had to move home in the middle of the Spring 2003.
Because I loved Alpha Gamma Gamma, I decided that I would rush when I got to Arizona State University. So I did, and I joined Kappa Delta!!
That is how I can be a member of both sororities!!

--If AGG goes AEPhi (there is alot of controversy over whether or not to do this if there was ever the option), then I'm not sure what would happen!!

Rachel,

I would now love to see Theta Sigma Chapter reopened. My daughter just informed me today that USC just jumped really high on her list of pref schools. She had been really hot for Penn State until recently. Would love to have KD open while she is there so she will also have a chance to become my sister!

DaffyKD

Hmm that''s really interesting. I'll have to look at the old yearbook again. I am sure both Aphi and KKG are in it, but it definitely mentions that that is KKGs first year...

thanks for the info!

Several people have asked what they can do to get their GLO chapter to recolonize -- specifically this has been KD but of course it could be any GLO.

For NPC groups it takes money, alumnae support, and money.

Competitive housing is critically important. If the chapter house was sold then they have to rent or buy one. If the chapter house is still owned then they have to wait until the lease ends or break the lease. After that comes remodeling, which could be extensive. [That happened at my chapter house -- the guys who leased it were so p.o'd at being evicted, even though the terms of the lease were not violated, that they really trashed the place.]

Usually by the time a chapter closes they've been on a decline for a number of years. The alumnae are burned out. Their memories may be long and they may not have the energy to work with a collegiate group again. It may have been so long since the chapter closed that there isn't a pool of energetic young (relatively speaking) alumnae. The local alum club, if there is one, may not be strong enough to provide advisors aswell as keep up its own activities. Though recolonizations (as with new chapters) include AI, an advisory council of only AIs would not be effective.

Your continuing financial support of your fraternity is so important! In addition to your (deductible) foundation contribution you can also make a (nondeductible) contribution designated for extension. Every $10....$25....$50 helps!

And, of course, it takes an invitation from the College Panhellenic to get the ball rolling in the first place.

Ahh! I WAS wrong! I just looked it up and it says that Kappa was founded at USC in 1947 and Alpha Phi is 1945! Argggh, I always get my facts confused!!

No matter who was first or last, the important thing is to try and get re-established.

LXA is using a two pronged offensive about Chapters!

1. Look at New possibilities, where the school is large enough and the School wants more involvement.

2. Re-opening Chapters that have been closed or stating new Colonies. Here again, with the blessing of the College and the feeling of the Campus.

Just to name a few of Chapters Re-opened: U. Mo., U Ark, Getteysburg, Pa, UnCo. Kent State, Valparasio U, USC-Akien, Loyal Marymount ULA, and some others.

This is basically the only way there is a sembelance of order!

Do Both sides, the Old and the New.

We all need to Grow, or maybe waste into dust as did the Dinasors?

I may not agree wiuth evrything My International does, but at least there is a plan of action!:) :rolleyes:

Guessing you are talking about one of the two locals @ CSI, right? Do you know whats going on with Queens, I heard rumors of an AEPhi colony.....

I definitely think that USC needs another sorority on campus. Their recruitment numbers have been steadily increasing whereas UCLA's have been jumping up and down with each year. This is where a problem unforunately lies for all of you KD and AEPhi USC expansion advocates... althoough KD and AEPhi at UCLA both have amazing chapters and wonderful girls (my two dorm roommates were AEPhi and KD ), they have both had trouble reaching recruitment total and chapter total for several years now to the decrease in Greek life. Not to burst anyone's bubble, but I'm sure that USC will consider that their new colony might would not have a strong collegiate chapter nearby and their nationals might not want to open another chapter with a nearby chapter already struggling. Therefore, it might have an effect on the sororities they invite to colonize at USC. Of course, I could be totally off-base but just thought I would share these facts but I would love to see either of these sororities at USC...their greek system definitely needs some new blood in it.

Is anyone from USC still on here? Whitney (Chole173)? USChica06?

yep, i am talking about CSI. when it was originally formed one of the locals expressed some interest is pursuing affiliation with AEPhi but when they heard about the NPC rule not permitting former NPC members who disaffiliated to affiliate with another NPC they decided to become a local.

As for Queens College I have no idea!! My national hasn't mentioned anything (but then again they didn't contact us when the NYU colony was first starting up despite being the closest collegiate chapter - we found out through the rumor mill) and the sisters from my chapter don't have any friends involved in Greek Life over there so we wouldn't have heard that way. If they are doing it they must be in the formative stages because they weren't listed in the colony section of this semester's directory.

I actually heard the rumor from you first so if you hear anything let me know. I would love to see a chapter there though. I have been really wanting to see another chapter at a CUNY.

OK girls...you have to fill me in...what does CSI stand for?? All I can think of is the TV show LOL.

sorry!! CSI is the College of Staten Island. It is one of the campuses of CUNY - City University of New York which also includes Brooklyn College, Queens College and Hunter College amongst others. There are at least 10 senior colleges in the system. Most of them have at least one or two NPHC/MGLO/local GLO's but only three of them have NPC sororities: Brooklyn, Queens and CSI. Phi Sigma Sigma was founded at Hunter College and a chapter of DPhiE closed there within the past 5-10 years. Many of the other campuses had NPC sororities about 30-40 years ago.

Speaking of the College of Staten Island...
 

USC Expansion?
 

Ok everyone, I'm writing this here and startnig another thread just about expansion at USC!!!

Here's what's going on right now. Basically, before expansion can happen at University of Southern California, a social interaction policy was put in place. Basically, this says that every fraternity must do something with each house before planning more events with a certain sorority. The reason for this is that right now, certain sororities have about ten plus exchanges, while others will only have one or two because they they are not considered top houses. If a new sorority were to come on at this point, it would be very hard for them to compete with all the other houses since fraternities might not want to do things with them because they are going to initially be so small. This is also being done to strengthen the non-"top" houses, and give more of an equal footing to everyone. This policy is not saying that each pairing must have a full out mixer, only that they have to do something with each sorority, whether it be a dinner, ice cream, a mixer, etc.
After a year or two of this policy being in place, panhellenic would send out invitations to nationals to come to USC. Then nationals would express interest, people from panhellenic and greek life would review these and eventually it would be sent to a vote for panhellenic (all 9 houses would have a vote....I'm not sure about Alpha Gamma Gamma though). So no expansion for USC right now, but it will be coming in the near future since so many houses are bursting at the seams with from 100-over 200 for the national houses!!